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OT - Nature or Nurture ?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by NorthFerribyTiger, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    How does personality and inherited character traits link to addictive/abusive behaviour? I have often known brothers/sisters who share one or the others parents personality, but differ quite a bit in reflecting their behaviours.
     
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Dont think we'll ever work it out. Thinking of football and look at the Fashanu brothers. Tough start in life, ones a non stop battler and the other more sensitive and couldnt cope. Very sad.
     
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  3. Girt Bucket

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    Drink ~ 1 's lonely ~ 2's friendly ~ 3's a party.
     
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  4. NorthFerribyTiger

    NorthFerribyTiger Well-Known Member

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    And look at Paula Yates & Peaches Geldof
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    You can't, they're dead.
     
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  6. Spanner82

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    You think it couldbe something similar to Stockholm Syndrome?
     
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  7. Cortez91

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    This couldn't be more untrue.
     
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  8. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    What makes you say that?
     
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  9. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    you cant learn that behaviour, you need the genes that will give you a propensity for that behaviour.

    It is the same argument as gay parents shouldn't raise children, incase they "catch" being gay
     
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  10. brian

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    i was raised in an abusive family, sometimes when there was no food for breakfast i would eat coal dust must have been some minerals in the coal dust that my body needed go figure, i was beaten at home all the time my mother would use anything that was at hand to beat you,irons brooms shoes anything and then there were the knife fights between older brothers and beating off brothers, then at school been left handed i was punished by the teachers if i used my left hand, i have never raised a hand against my family in fact i can't stand violence of any kind. So not people that have been abused are abusers
     
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  11. Cortez91

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    It's completely generalised. Addiction will be present in both but the type of addiction will be different.
     
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  12. The Omega Man

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    I was sat taking to two students last night one studying physiology and the other criminology.

    We were discussing the Jack the Ripper story from this week and then we moved on to pre disposition. Nothing to deep. They have both just finished summer placements with charities.

    One was based in Southampton and the other the New Forest. The Southampton student said hat she was not surprised by the social class of the people she dealt with, where as the New Forest girl was. Between them they felt that there is no rule that can be followed, coming from an abusive family does not mean you will be an abuser. But it may make the journey easier. Having easier access the contacts and knowing how to access the tools. Just like a child who is surrounded by musicians may become a musician, a footballers son may become a footballer, but it does not work out that it will always be the case.
    One thought that I had was about siblings who are separated but still have the same interests, but then, they stand out and there are just a few cases compared to siblings who are separated who share nothing in common.
    So my view is that we tend to focus on the cases that match the profiles that we find interesting and ignore the ones that we consider "normal".
    Personally I do not hold with the view that there is a gay gene, some men are attracted to other men, some white women are attracted to men with black skins, your sexual preference is not determined pre birth, it is a consequence of life. It may not be a choice, but if it was genetic, it would be possible to predict the outcome and it certainly isn't.
     
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  13. NorthFerribyTiger

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    That's not what was said, it is a fact that a disproportionate number of people found to be abusive towards their families also witnessed domestic abuse & the question was why as one would have thought having seen the destructive nature of that behaviour that those kids would be less likely to do the same when they had their own families ...not that everyone witnessing abuse as a child would become an abuser.

    If indeed there is a genetic link to as has been suggested a propensity toward that behaviour then it becomes a lottery that a child will inherit that trait in the same way as eye, hair colour or even a genetically inherited disease but one or more parents carrying that gene increases the chances
     
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