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QPR ‘could be relegated to Conference’ unless they pay £40m FFP fine

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  1. BigFox

    BigFox Well-Known Member

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  2. Proud Fox

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    WOW! But i can't see it happening in a million years.

    The Football League will do that which QPR will go on and appeal which they will be successful and will end up paying a small fine for breaking FFP
     
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  3. Murdoc

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    Would be hilarious to see. Like Proud said though, there'll be a system that'll let them be fine as with all Clubs that breach FFP.
     
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  4. JohnTheFox

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    I agree with the above comments that it is unlikely to happen. However in Scotland in recent years there has been Gretna who I think were thrown out the league (and replaced by Annan) and Rangers who were dumped into the bottom division so we have seen north of the border than teams are punished although in those cases for administration. I think the worst we have seen here has been so man points deductions for teams (Luton and Pompey come to mind) that these teams have many consecutive relegations
     
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    Difference being; this is the Premier League. Point deductions are massively different to being automatically dumped out the Football League. The white ****e got a points deduction in League 1 if I remember rightly and they nearly got promoted.

    What would they do if they relegated the Drama Queens to the Conference then? Would Derby automatically replace them or is it after the Season's finished and 4 get promoted into the Premier League (Top 3 and 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th are Play-offs)?

    I don't quite see how they could do it.
     
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    I think it'd be based on this season as oppose to promoting Derby but I suppose they could promoted the play off runners up but it'd complicated things a lot. I don't think it'll happen, was just thinking about dramatic punishments that have been handed out in recent years
     
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    I'd like to see a club made an example of.

    I know it's unfair on the fans but what QPR did last season was utterly disgusting.
     
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    Just found out that this might only happen if DQPR get relegated, so it would be just a case of two being relegated from the Championship, three from League 1 etc etc
     
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  9. Proud Fox

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    Just like we did a few years ago under Sven?

    We tried loaning a team and it didn't work
    We tried buying a team and that didn't work either

    Nigel built us a team over 18 months and it paid off handsomely
     
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    The Premier League won't support the football league in anyway so they can't do anything until QPR re-enter the football league
     
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    Yeah, I don't think QPR will receive any punishment until they are back in the football league. So if they are relegated this season, they could be denied admittance into the Football League, and will have to compete in the Conference (or not compete at all) until they pay what they owe. They've been very badly managed (and I don't just mean by 'Arry) and have ignored FFP, which is there to stop clubs going to the wall. If they aren't made an example of, then we might as well wave goodbye to FFP because it's toothless.
     
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    FFP didn't exist then. We were within our rights to do that.
     
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    I know but we can't exactly complain when other teams do it. Every club is within their rights to run their club how they want even with FFP and should accept the consequences of breaking FFP within reason

    £40M and 4 relegations isn't reasonable in the slightest. QPR should get a punishment. But nothing too extreme as they still had to produce on the pitch which they did to some degree.

    Just nowhere near as good as us on and off the pitch hey Queenie
     
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  14. Grifter

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    Could you provide the detailed financial breakdown which justifies claiming our actions were "utterly disgusting"? Or have you just swallowed the populist tripe spouted by the daily mail etc.
    We reduced our wage bill when we got relegated, and shifted out 20odd players. Our new football owner had his pants pulled down by unscrupulous agents whilst in the PL, so many of the highest earners were nigh on impossible to get rid of (SWP etc.). I'm fairly sure you experienced an almost identical situation under Sven?
    Taarabt, Cesar, Granero, Remy, Mbia, JS.Park all had to be loaned out, because no one would match their contracts fully.


    Funny how it's little QPR who draw the chagrin of the masses when for years City/Chelsea/Utd have financially doped beyond recognition. They're the clubs which contribute most to an imbalanced playing field. Don't Utd have the biggest debt in football? and no CL money to support it currently either.
    Our owners are actually richer than the aforementioned clubs', yet they've never spent the whopping sums of a City or Chelsea.


    By the way, Leicester of all clubs shouldn't be acting holier than thou: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/05/wage-bills-leicester-city-nottingham-forest-losses.

    You're one of our partners in opposing FFP in it's current form- "QPR and Leicester head list of clubs ready for legal action against FFP rules": http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...ubs-ready-legal-action-against-FFP-rules.html
     
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    Grifter we have no worries about FFP. Since NP returned we have been cutting costs and last season we never actually spent money on players other then we we recouped from the sales of Jermaine Beckford and Ben Marshall and we was still £1.5M in profit

    We had 12 players running out of contract including people like David Nugent, Wes Morgan and Kasper Schmeichel and none of them got new deals until promotion was signed and sealed.

    So the club prepared for ever eventuality and if we did breach FFP rule it will be very marginal
     
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  16. MoultonFox

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    I agree £40M and 4 relegations isn't reasonable.
    They should be relegated to the southern league.
     
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  17. Jack Lesterfan

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    Ouch, WUMMED when visiting an opposition board <laugh>

    That's gona hurt in the morning...
     
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  18. Grifter

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    Not wummed at all- AKCJ's viewpoint is shared by a lot of people. Yet they can rarely back it up with facts and figures
     
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  19. Proud Fox

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    What you did was wrong in business sense and how a football club should be run but at the end of the day it could and very nearly did blow up in your face. That's the gamble you took and luckily for you it paid off

    QPR is a very badly run club IMO and the vast majority of footballs aswell. But the FFP system is a good idea but majorly flawed
     
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  20. Lesta Gangsta

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    Well, yes we can. It wasn't "illegal" when we did it. It was when QPR did it. We, and every other Championship club, had to cut our cloth accordingly, shipping out our highest earners. QPR didn't, they totally disregarded the rules in an effort to return immediately to the sanctuary of Premiership. QPR would never have gone back up without flouting the rules (they weren't very good as it was). If I was a Derby fan, I'd be furious (just like some of us were about Watford the season before).

    And just to add, I think Tony Fernandes totally misses that point in that article with regards to the transition period after relegation. The point is Tony, that small clubs like QPR shouldn't be spending over their means in the Premiership either. You have to function as if there's a real possibility (which there is) that you'll be in the Championship the following season, and your club should be fit to meet the requires of that league. Relegated clubs get parachute payments which are deemed as sufficient to support that transition. They aren't for QPR, because they spend a s**tload of cash that they don't have. Anyway, call me crazy, but didn't QPR buy a ton of players WHILE in the Championship anyway? Like spending £10m on Austin and Phillips? And they brought in Prem players on loan on God-knows how much money, like Assou-Ekotto, Maiga, Kranjcar and Morrison.
     
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