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Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool Match History 1894-2014

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by THFC6061, Aug 26, 2014.

  1. Spurm

    Spurm Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha, yes, massive sadface
     
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  2. Kylo_Toure

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    How about the 'dark arts' of defending? Or was Dier not trying to gain an advantage by tugging his arm?
     
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  3. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Not dive, but foul. It wasn't a foul.
     
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  4. crackerman jack

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    Penalty issue to one side, once again we have been outclassed by one of the top teams in the premiership. It's like Groundhog Day.
     
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  5. mh20

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    i can hear 2000 liverpool fans, and a few yids saying **** off stevie
     
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  6. Welcome to the Lane, Poch!

    Best avoid Mr Levy until you can redeem yourself. And if you cannot redeem yourself with at least three wins to counteract this dire display, expect your P45 in the Christmas post.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    The contact had absolutely no correlation with the reaction. He was barely touched, certainly not enough to warrant a foul and he threw himself to the ground.
    You even appear to accept that, with the use of loaded phrases like, "accepting contact" and "exaggeration".
    It's a dive.
     
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  8. Spudulike

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    It's a wake up call that we need. Hopefully the club will see that we need improvements in midfield as they've made us look clueless in that department.
     
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  9. Moorpheus19

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    Are you serious?
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

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    Sterling running through our whole defence. So poor at the back.
     
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  11. Spudulike

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    HIAG's never serious, you should know that by now. Sterling meanwhile is making a mockery of our back four.
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    "You even appear to accept that, with the use of loaded phrases like, "accepting contact" and "exaggeration". It's a dive."

    He cannot bring himself to say it (hence all the prevaricating phrases) . :D
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    Davies replaces Rose. Surprised Lamela's going to play the whole 90.
    Rose is injured, apparently. Pull him out of the England squad and teach him how to defend, please.
     
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  14. Spurm

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    This doesn't make us a bad team but clearly Liverpool have our number at this point in time. We can't handle their style of play and their pace and the drubbings last season have us nervous at the back
     
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  15. Master Yoda

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    For me I think about the umbrella of 'simulation'. Three types:

    1) Creating a foul - when there is zero contact OR the attacker creates the contact purposefully. The player dives. Think that famous Gilardino dive for instance.
    2) Exaggerating a non-foul - when there is some contact but the player reacts dishonestly by exaggerating the blow, rolling around etc to win the foul

    These two are both cheating and unacceptable.

    3) Exaggerating a foul - when there is contact and it is a foul. The attacker purposefully takes the contact and makes sure the referee awards them the foul.

    This is a perhaps unfortunate but present part of the game. If a player is fouled they have the choice of continuing or taking the foul. Winning freekicks etc is a skill - maybe a 'dark art' of players like Suarez but it wins games. Defenders are well aware and often do the same thing to win freekicks under high balls and so on.
     
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  16. The RDBD

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    "This doesn't make us a bad team but clearly Liverpool have our number at this point in time."

    Their pressing in the final third / MF is good.
    If that is what Pochettino will eventually bring, then no problems with this result (the day
    before the transfer deadline) .
     
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  17. A blow for Spurs and for England as Danny Rose picks up an injury. He trudges off straight down the tunnel.
    (BBC Football Live commentary)

    More like a blessing in disguise for us, I'd say.
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    Umbrella of simulation. <rofl>

    I use the laws of physics.
    Was the contact force such as to produce a reactive force resulting in Allen falling as he did ??
    No. Therefore : dive.
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    Our starts have been absolutely static since we replaced Redknapp and I have no idea why it hasn't been addressed.
    When teams go at us early on we seem to crumble completely. Really poor and it's been like this for seasons.
     
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  20. Master Yoda

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    That's not good logic. Not all fouls are alike and not all fouls will lead to a player falling. If you applied that test to every foul in a game it wouldn't work.

    Was Allen touched? Yes. Should Dier have touched him? No.
     
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