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  1. weararedbonnet

    weararedbonnet Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks. No one gives a toss anymore. Typical of anything government run, where its easier to say no, or claim insufficient evidence. That's my work done for the day, now I can send emails and text all my mates, or nip out shopping. It's ok, my jobs protected. It's not that social services or the police have failed, you only fail if you tried in the first place. they just couldn't be bothered
     
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    Utter tosh, what the "Professionals" have done is perpertrate a systematic cover up of what has been going on because they were more concerned about racisim than the sex abuse, as for "Good practice and guidelines" it surely is quite simple arrest and prosecute the offenders, as for the professionals they should be standing in the dock as well.
     
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  3. weararedbonnet

    weararedbonnet Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Blacker_than_Knight. The whole system is corrupt
     
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  4. Frank_Pingel_Legend

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    I recently got into an argument with a black man at work, which got a bit heated. I must admit I thought I would come off worse because of the pc preoccupations of the management, if the dispute escalated. This made me determined to avoid further conflict.

    All a bit sad, really.
     
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  5. Blacker-than-Knight

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    Nothing to do with "Government" in the broad terms, this is the local council, police and vested interests in Rotherham, not sure what the bollocks is for but some people do care.
     
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    Northern Asians in most of these cases i might add.
     
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  7. weararedbonnet

    weararedbonnet Well-Known Member

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    By government I meant that all those involved are paid by local councils, who in turn are funded from government. I still stand by my statement that no one gives a toss anymore, and all this child abuse gets worse. Whether its a white adult and a black child, or vice versa, it's still child abuse. Anyone convicted deserves a very severe sentence, and the so called professionals who failed to protect tghose childen should lose their jobs.
     
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  8. Minxy

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    & who would replace them & do a better job seeing as they are already under staffed as it is ?
     
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  9. Freddd

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    A valid question. However, if (as has been reported) directions were given by managers that abuse claims should not be followed up as a result of the risk of appearing racially insensitive, that manager should lose his/her job.

    I make mistakes. I understand everyone else does as well. I also understand that that social services don't have the easiest of jobs. There are some errors, though, which have to have consequences.
     
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  10. weararedbonnet

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    Under staffed????? If they all did their job properly, and cut the "sickness" days, it could run efficiently. I have done sub contract work for several councils, and the way they plan site visits that last 15 mins, and the rest of the time is spent in the local pub till mid afternoon would do a military operation proud. For one council I was asked to slow down, as I was making the other engineers look slow. Dear god, I hadn't even broke into a sweat
     
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  11. Minxy

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    I think .... as is reported .... is very relevant

    Im wading my way through the report to see what it says ..... are the rest of you .... or are you jumping up & down at newspaper headlines ?
     
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  12. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

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    How the hell do you know their circumstances? If they're forced into it, I agree with you, but as far as I'm aware, they're not "forced" into it.

    The situation here is totally different. They are forced into prostitution with the threat of being doused in petrol, their home burnt down with their relations in them. Totally different.
     
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  13. Gordonthetoony

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    I do believe all those senior managers who prevented a thorough investigation have all now retired, prior to this hitting the fans.
     
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  14. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    This has been an issue infrequently discussed, but it's been discussed nonetheless in the media. I believe the experts blame the culture of arranged marriages and sexual repression merging with the liberal cultures here. The truth is, though, that it's apparently prevalent in places like India and Pakistan as well, so it's much more likely the overtly sexist and prehistoric ideals remaining as part of the political and societal infrastructure of their culture, than specifically location.

    Sexual violence is the most pathetically mistreated facet of English law, in my opinion. I was with a lass who had been abused and the bastard who did it got away with it because of the useless incompetence of the English f***ing police, and quite honestly you don't know the mental torture of such a past until you witness it manifest in someone you care about. One night I stayed late at work to help an elderly colleague, and had unfortunately forgotten to take my phone. My ex, who I always called after work, was so distressed I had not called her, that she panicked and dialed the Police. 3 hours later, I get home knackered, to find the Police in my living room with my father. The bastards had the utter temerity to turn around and say "Is she unstable or clingy? Please make sure she doesn't waste Police time in future"... I'm ****ing sorry officer, A) how unfortunate it is for you to do your ****ing job <ok> and B) maybe she wouldn't appear "unstable" and "clingy" if 13 ****ing years ago lazy incompetent ****wits, like yourself, hadn't completely botched an investigation into the abuse she suffered during childhood. Maybe she might be able to trust that the people in her life would be kept safe.

    I actually threw the ****ers out the house. ****ing hate cops. Criminals with hats on <ok>

    As a caveat, my favourite interaction with a policeman thus far, was with another ex. This chap was being excessively nice to my girlfriend, taking her for lunch and what not, for free, every day. He was 40, she was 20. Friends, they seemed like, but he would text her very weird messages late at night while she was with me, and we'd both be like "that's ****ing odd"... One night I get a facebook message from my ex, "hey, I went out last night, I'm at <arse-wipes> house, he let me sleep in his bed...". I ****ing blew a top and she didn't know why <laugh>. Of course, she said he was just a friend, he texted me saying "I'm a cop, I'm in charge of the application of the law, I would never do anything untoward. I had a bad life, but now I'm serving citizens"... I sent him one back saying "I don't give a flying **** that you're a cop, cops are just as capable of being scumbags as anybody else". Emotionally blackmailing turd. Obviously, this caused a strain in the relationship, because she thought I'd lost her a friend. A month later we broke up, and officer <arse-wipe> says, hey FRIEND, let's go out. He gets her mortal, off-her face drunk, and drags her back to his while he's perfectly sober and ****s her. Stupid cow.

    So yes, I hate cops. If anybody here is one, I advise them not to make that known to me <laugh>
     
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  15. Minxy

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    There is plenty of charities out there trying to rescue girls who have been sold into the sex trade, so maybe it is you who need to read more about these poor kids circumstances

    I understand more than most on here about Child Sexual Exploitation & am not trying to justify the poor decisions made by many people in Rotherham ..... but at least they were in jobs trying to help young people .... rather than reading about the complex circumstances being reduced to headlines in a newspaper & crying for everyone's head.

    There is horrendous stuff going on all the time & professionals often get stuff wrong ..... but sometimes that is because they have so much to do .... they can't see the wood for the trees
     
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  16. weararedbonnet

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    God almighty Minxy, either you work for a local council, or maybe you still believe in Father Christmas.

    You don't "work" for a local authority, you turn up occasionally and get paid for it.
     
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  17. pauljohnhutch

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    you know what theres some ****in knob heads in here what about this and what about that.There is an awfull lot of young girls suffering because they were raped, sometimes by gangs of men,forced to watch others being raped before it was there turn ,they had petrol poured over them as a threat . the YOUNG girls that went and reported it were let down by cowards because the lowlife that were carrying out the crime were from an ethnic minority (men from a PAKISTANI background) and people in authority were scarred of being called racist.so i will blame the chief constable the head of social services and people in Rotherham council,because if they had done something about it in the begining maybe 1300 and what ever young females would not of been subjected to this vile crime and would not have to suffer till the day they die
     
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  18. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    She doesn't work for a local council, she has worked in a sector which deals with the fallout and the victims, a sector which I believe has nonsensical statistical pressures and poor staffing levels.

    I see the point she makes, because nothing is news unless it's something they can spin it for weeks and weeks in the media, and to me it's unlikely the authorities were doing nothing, or little, about the crimes. The fact remains, however, that the effort wasn't as effective as it could have been because of bureaucratic nonsense, and that's the salient point.
     
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  19. weararedbonnet

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    So how do we explain that Sharon Shoesmith, who was in charge of the Baby P case, walks away with £600,000.00?
    One hell of a reward for gross incompetance
     
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  20. Minxy

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    I dont work for the local council but I have worked very hard all my adult life to improve the lives of very vulnerable young people

    & I totally resent your cheap, snide remarks that suggest that putting away these bastards that abuse young people .... is some how a simple task

    I have to say you haven't a clue how hard Police forces, in collaboration with Social Workers, teachers, health workers, voluntary sectors workers have to work to get even a single conviction through the justice system ...... yes vast mistakes have been made ..... but also much protective work is done without any acknowledgement of the press or general public

    If you think you could do better .... I suggest you get yourself a qualification & start doing some hard graft .... then maybe .... just maybe you will understand
     
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