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Can we stay in the Prem with this set of players under the current manager?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Bob the slob, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all that Matt, though it looks like Monk could be on a very steep learning curve early season!...............<ok>
     
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  2. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Are referring to Routs, Dyer, Leon and the three defensive players fans have been screaming for since the cull of last season's team
    or
    Bartley, Williams, Siggy, Ki and Jonjo
    or
    Canas, Poz, Pablo, Micho, Chico and Davies?
     
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  3. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Routs , Dyer , along with Montero running the outside , is a big part of our game because when they get past theyre man quickly the opposing team must take part of theyre midfield and defence to flood that side to deal with it .It opens them up in the middle , especially Routledge . Routledge should never be in the middle , he needs to know there is no one to his left when creating imo .Shelvey and Siggy shouldnt play together , but against each other for minutes . It will bring a new found will to try just that bit harder trying to retain the position .
     
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  4. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    What you thinking Valley - assuming that Bony wants out, Joe plus (say) £10m?

    Presumably, we would want a replacement for Bony (back-up for Gomis). Who would you go for?
     
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  5. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    you say learning curve but he has had since Feb and has been at the club 10yrs so knows exactly what we are about and what players and infra structure we have, just how long is this curve ?
     
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  6. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Well going back to an antiquated 4-4-2 does make you think, and if as some on here are saying that it's what he wants us to play, then he is in for a very steep learning curve with an axe at the end of it!..............<laugh>
     
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  7. Norway-jack

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    Its looking like Gomis is the replacement for Bony having seen how we hamfistedly tried to play them together yesterday.

    We wont keep both of them happy by playing only one or sharing the striking job, i cant see us paying Gomis massive money to be a support player either. Wilf was looking a bit frustrated yesterday too .

    Its been proven that we cant play all our stars together so somebody is going to have to sit on the bench with the youngsters and i cant see that doing the ego any good, it will also make life tough for Monk .

    As somebody said earlier you learn alot more from a defeat than a victory but what has been learned is going to make garrys job alot harder than it already is.
     
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  8. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Well if Bony hasn't scored in games at 60 minutes then Gomis will be brought on to keep him on his toes, competition between the two for the front man is good in my view!.............<ok>
     
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  9. Bob the slob

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    :emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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  10. roofjack_22

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    Still hoping we cash in on Bony while we can make a bundle and give Gomis free reign with Emnes coming off the bench to replace hm.If not , Im not really sure why Gomis is high on the payroll and here .
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    All managers are on a learning curve at the start of every new season. Man city's manager learned something today and so will every other manager. it's continuous...
     
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  12. Norway-jack

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    Yes, you learn in school at day 1 and you still learn while you're doing your Masters degree , it looks like Monk just left Primary school while pelegrini is putting the finishing touches to his thesis on Global warming.

    But both still learning as you say <ok>
     
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    Joe plus Borini in a straight swap with Bony maybe? Allen valued at £10 million, and Borini at £14 million as that's the price they agreed with Sunderland.
     
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  14. roofjack_22

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    Yummy deal if Rodgers gave up Borini and Allen , we actually could use Allen more than we ever did right now and Borini can create , could use a bit of that .
     
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    So we drew a game using 3-5-2 (3 seasons ago) and Monk still thought 4-4-2 would be better!! On that basis that makes his evaluation of what works and what doesnt even more inept. If you are gonna try something different in the last friendly at least play to your teams strength. We are not a team that can play with a midfield 4 anyway you want to cut it. Either way it amazes me he experiments with a system he doesnt plan on using the following week (or any week for that matter). The whole exercise seemed pointless to me.
     
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  16. Yankee_Jack

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    Bap ... I think he's going to persevere with the 4-4-2. Saturday was not a tryout - it was intended as a practice of Plan A.
     
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  17. Stereo

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    We should forget about about getting our old players back - it just seems like nostalgia. I don't want Borini and not interested in getting Joe back. What we need is a new manager for ****s sake !
     
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  18. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    There is nobody better to take the swans forward. Jinx has done a masterstroke here as nobody knows the club better than monk. To much overreaction here with stories made up to suit because it's monk. They obviously dont know the tremendous hard work he is putting in every day and even his 2nd in command has said that he has never in all his years worked with a manager who puts in the hours or is as dedicated as monk....What some of you mere fans talk about is utter nonsense.
     
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  19. Yankee_Jack

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    Imagine how bad it could have been last Saturday if he was working like a regular manager.
     
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  20. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Don't think any body is criticising Monk putting the work in, just his ability in managing a team. I'm not convinced one bit that he can take us forward, he gets my backing as all out previous managers have.

    Just think he's not cut out to be our manager at this present time. I hope I'm wrong and I have to eat my words, we shall have to wait and see.
     
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