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Can we stay in the Prem with this set of players under the current manager?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Bob the slob, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. ValleyGraduate12

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    But the question is a valid one as it questioning whether the CURRENT players are good enough.
     
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    Well spend some f**ing money :headbang::headbang::headbang:
     
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    A club should only sell a player when his replacement is a done deal. That's common sense. I thought the LB, RB, CB and a new DM would have been sorted by now.
    Sorry but that excuse by Monk doesn't wash with me.
     
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  4. Nosugarman

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    As 3-5-2 seems to be current flavour of the month how about the following:-

    Amat-Bartley-Williams

    Dyer-Gylfi-Ki-Leon-Routledge(Montero)

    Gomis-Bony
     
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  5. Yankee_Jack

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    On the idea of players coming in .... I believe it when it happens. There are so many things that can be a barrier to acquiring a player. The CURRENT squad is our current squad and this is the pool of players under Monk that will determine our future.

    After yesterday, if Fernandez saw that performance he might be having second thoughts. It only needs one thought to turn a deal sour.
     
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  6. Cherry Jack

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    Yes, I think we can. But we need more depth at the back and a decent defensive midfielder to be very sure of it and push on.

    I think were suffering a bit of amnesia here. Were we really that stylish for the majority of last season under Laudrup? We were crap with the exception of a handful of performances. A lot of neutrals still had the impression we played beautiful football and were just in bad form becuase they had a hard on for ML and because they don't actually follow us at all.
     
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  7. JackPA26

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    This would be a better formation than the 4-4-2, allowing us 2 upfront and options wide left and right. However the wide men would need to cover some ground when needed to drop back.
     
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  8. neathjack

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    Yes very strange. We get Fab, LB and probably Gomis in early probably anticipating Vorm, Davies and Bony were leaving. In the end I am not sure how hard we tried to keep Vorm or how hard we will try to keep Bony.

    We tell Canas to go and again not sure how hard we tried to keep Chico but we don't seem to have replacements for either. Lots of fans have also recognised that we need back up or potential replacement for Rangel but no sign of anyone.
     
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    So,Laudrup was only here for one season? Who is really suffering from amnesia here?
     
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  10. ValleyGraduate12

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    Cherry is commenting on performances last season, not the season before. Doesn't suggest that ML was here for one season at all Vetch.
     
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    Agree with Boundy. Roof is talking ****e - complete and utter ****e. If we get a result up there I'll come back here and say I was wrong, no problem.

    Not optimistic at all and as others have said we appear to be going backwards. I keep clinging on to that loss against Neath before our first season in the Prem. Despite that we did very well in the end, but this time not looking too clever imo.
     
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  12. Nosugarman

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    Dyer has always been pretty good at dropping back to cover the defence and Routledge has improved in this as well. Haven't seen Montero yet so cannot comment on him.
     
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    Wasn't dismissing the first season at all, it was amazing, I was pointing out that our style didn't decline under Monk, it declined under Laudrup.
     
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    It's great - except from the lack of players on the bench and that the defence sucks!
     
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    Rangel , chicos replacement , Williams, Taylor
    Britton , Ki
    Dyer (Siggy or Shelvey ) Routledge
    Gomis or Bony
    I think it is important that Siggy, Shelvey and Bony , Gomis should push each other for time played.
    It will make them all push each other harder.imo .
    Britton last midfielder back and Ki with a bit more movement forward .
     
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    I totally disagree here.
    We played the same style with less end product IMO (due to injuries to Michu, Dyer, Rangel, Vorm, Leon etc.)
    I posted a thread on here with a link to an article (which was written by someone who wasn't a Swans fan) which more or less proved it with facts and figures....it was called 'the Final Ball'.

    Same style but diminished results due to the following factors;
    - less energy and more injuries (due to 2 games a week for long stretches)
    - uncharacteristic defensive lapses from Ash, Ben, Taylor, Rangel and Chico (...less so)....weeks/months with Tiendalli and Tremmel in the team...integrating Amat
    - the final ball wasn't good enough...Dyer out injured, Leon missing periods, integrating Shelvey, and Michu absent or half fit...integrating Bony who also spent time injured

    Despite these factors it was the same shape, same style, we continued to dominate possession in most games...just created less clear cut chances and conceded more.

    The style has only changed since Monk has taken over.
    IMO we are going backwards at a rate of knots.
     
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  17. Shaper

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    In answer to the OP, yes. Yes we can.
     
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  18. Terror ball

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    to answer the OP,

    It 's possible but increasingly unlikely as the biggest problem, "the manager", is damaging the squad and this team with every passing week...it really doesn't matter who we bring in, he has ripped up a team who had proved competent.
     
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  19. jonasbrothers

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    the lineup is irrelevant, it's all about what system is being used. There should be enough quality in the squad to stay up, especially with a few more quality signings, but without a system , something the players believe in and know exactly what to do the team will struggle. That's what was so worrying that it looked like being far from a team that knew each other and what they had to do.
     
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  20. jonasbrothers

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    It can be done, but this is really like starting all over. Unity and the will to work hard for each other everyday is required
     
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