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David Moyes' time at Manchester United was an 'absolute disaster' says Phil Neville

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  1. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    But you thought he was the perfect choice <doh>
     
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    Yep, hold my hand up. Thought Moyes was the right choice
     
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    Matt named his left and right hand after Moyes then had a 3 way.
     
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    I thought he was too... But just because he wasn't fergie (and was never going to be) doesn't mean that the senior players had to shaft him. They bear a huge part of the responsibility too. Thank god most of them have either gone like Moyes or retired from playing.
     
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    Pretty despicable if they were involved. Lots of press allegations, but no one has named the culprits
     
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    I think it's obvious Rio was one of them.
     
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    Yep, did hear mention of Rio. a great player for us, but blotted his copy book if that's correct.
     
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    The whole team let themselves down (though one or two did seem to try), wether this was down to dressing room mutterings, low moral due to team selection/tactics or loss of confidence in the manager i don`t know. What i do know is the players on view were capable of much better performancies and the manager did not instill confidence with his constant statements of how they would "try" to do better. When we had a bad game under Fergie he used to say it was unacceptable and you wouldn`t see a performance like that in the next game, he was always right too.
     
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    Yes, Moyes wasn't a Fergie. And looking back fergie made a mistake by choosing someone who he thought could be a long term reliable replacement for him. And in retrospect the fact that he didn't win a trophy or beaten top clubs away should have rung alarm bells.

    But the senior players should have shown leadership and rallied round. They were champions the season before and irrespective of who the manager was they ought to have been professional enough to win matches. FFS Giggs with no managerial experience whatsoever had a better record than Moyes. What does this tell you about the players and their willingness to play for Moyes? Was it because he was an outsider who came from a rival club and who had won nothing previously? Would they have behaved the same way with Phelan, Queroz, or Rene M?

    I was more disgusted with the f**ing united players last season than with Moyes. And that is why I wanted most of them shipped out.
     
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    I would have at least expected them to show some pride in their personal ability and the club they played for <ok>
     
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    Rio, giggs, evra, van persie..

    Infact every united player but rooney.

    Thank **** they did too. Should have done it earlier.
     
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    You mean like against bayern? Or the second leg v olympiacos?

    In the end they gave up. It was a complete farce. Still no inited fans owes moyes a ****ing thing so lets stop this faux outrage and dispair.

    Everyone one of you thought he was dogshit and an embarrassment to the club. The only difference is some like to try and look better by pretending otherwise.

    Imagine if liverpool fans were defending woys time there. How we'd laugh.
     
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    Last year makes you appreciate Sir Alex that little bit more, just shows how good he really was. Yes last year was a disaster but its time to look forward and who knows what this season will bring and hopefully this time next year we will yet again be a Champions League team...............
     
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    I do not buy this argument one bit.

    In business world, it is the executive manager that is responsible for the moral of his staff. He has to find a way to motivate them and make them perform their duties to the highest level. If workers lose confidence in management, it doesn't matter how talented they are, the rails will come off. This is leadership 101!

    Moyes' time was a failure because he simply didn't have the experience nor wisdom to deal with accomplished and distinguished players. In the end, they lost faith in his methods and management abilities.

    Oh yeah, he shut himself in the foot by bringing a completely new backroom. Who's to blame for that bad decision? Again, that was his lack of wisdom. You don't change the backroom of a successful club that isn't broken. He should have made only subtle changes to ensure continuity but his ego got the better of him.

    So please, stop blaming the players. The blame lies sorely at the feet of the manager.
     
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