I am sure there are many places like that and, no offence - I'm sure none taken cos Lincoln isnt aiming for this - but it's not a major industrial city.
No no, no offence taken, I took your point about major cities. However, as a medium sized city (and once an industrial city) the road system including a one way system in parts locks out the full city centre/university. Crazy planning all the same! Off topic, but I'll say it anyway, after one year living back in Hull, I'm glad I came back!
I take it as straight-forward electioneering. In this respect, why would Cameron, Osbourne or any other connected to the Conservative party give the mildest **** about Hull? David Davies has a cast iron majority thanks to a few envelope stuffers in Howden, the Hull MPs are unchallengable thanks to previous geremandering so they have nothing to gain in the forthcoming election. Until we get a truly democratic contemporary election system Hull has no chance politically.
I like Lincoln - well worth a romantic weekend away with a loved one or similar. Great Cathedral. The roof tour is worth doing if you have a head for heights. Lincoln Castle has a brilliant chapel designed so that none of the congregation can see anyone except the Minister, dating from the time that the castle was a prison and all prisoners had to be kept in total isolation. And relevant to our WW1 commemorations Lincoln was the home to the Water Carriers for Mesopotamia, a secret code name placed on a military design for a war machine intended to break the trench war stalemate. The workforce started to refer to the project as the Water Tanks and eventually shortened that even further to just Tank. Several of the earliest WW1 tanks are on display. Also some lovely pubs, restaurants and B&Bs.
A northern powerhouse needs an East/West infrastructure as much as a North/South one. We can only benefit. Plenty of William Hague type Tories in Yorkshire.
Unlike the "Tory powerhouses / marginal" seats in central Newcastle, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool and Sheffield?
Northumbria and some areas of Tyne & Wear - marginal seats. North Leeds and some areas of West Yorkshire - marginals. Cheshire and South West Manchester - marginals. North Derbyshire and West Sheffield (including Nick Clegg's seat) - marginals. The Wirral - marginals. Hull, East Yorkshire and North Yorkshire - politically moribund.......see the difference? Proportional representation is a necessity in contemporay Britain and the current crowd are simply turkies who will never vote for Christmas!!!!!
Which would make the rest of your family Hull Targers. Dont let the CTWD-ers on here hear you shout that!!!
So you're suggesting that it's a vicious circle that there are too few people in the East Riding to justify more than a couple of MPs (all safe Tory seats) and, because of this, no investment comes to the area and therefore no migration follows to increase the local population, requiring greater parliamentary representation?
In short Peter, NO! I still work and stay over there. When I come up with a better name I'll change it!
Ha ha Mussie! Well, I would pronounce the 'I' in Tigers to rhyme with 'eye' not 'tar'. Regardless, I do not support the name change in any form, so sadly I won't be choosing Hulltiger because of the connotation. Are you looking forward to the North Ferriby's new season?
Mussie old chap - I would love to know your definition of marginal, as in Cheshire there are seats as safe for the Tories as in Hull there are seats as safe as for Labour. Could say more about Tatton (my area) - but this thread is verging on the politics discussion, so will leave it at that for the time being
I don't know if it has much to do with the rail system, but driving round York between the hours of 3 and 7 is a right pisser.
You're not wrong Original, many of their fans do hate us, no doubt. The Lincolnshire police were always pretty nervous when we were in town and so were the landlords. They genuinely thought we were the worst fans to visit Sincil Bank. Not that we'll be visiting there again too soon (unless in the cup), I wouldn't drink in the lower high street pubs anyway. There's better pubs half way up the hill and/or just off the city centre. When we were in the same division during the 90s, I lived on the High Street for a short time. I was taking my son to the game and we needed to get our city scarfs from the car some 30 yards away. One or two of our fans assuming that we were local threatened us with a good kicking despite me shouting at them that we were city fans. It was pretty scary. One in particular, in his late 20s, physically threatened my son who was around aged 10 at the time. The look on his face when I confronted him in the toilets without his mates around... he wasn't so brave then!
And this ideological nonsense doesn't help the regeneration of the North: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/04/east-coast-mainline-fury-reprivatisation-plan