Harold should be made fully accountable for very poor management of Taarabt IMO Yet here we are knocking Taarabt With Roller QPR is all about romance Where is our number 10 you Pratt Harold thinks he is bigger than QPR I don't want his ****ty brand if football he is a loser who has conned his way in football ... Mild success which is is still dreaming about with Spurs and Pompey Taarabt is a idiot of the pitch On it a genius
Luckily for us he is such a petulant individual many potential suitors will weigh that against his undoubted talent. Hes a flawed genius but hes our flawed genius. For me he is QPR. Stylish and frustrating in equal measures. I really hope he stays / fails to be purchased
Adel has been given his chance in Ireland. But now he has to deal with a strong dressing room...with three strong captains (Clint, Joey, Rio) who will not take c@@@ from anyone....who have their own ideas about team and team play...and Steve Black in the background. I think he has been read the riot act, you knuckle down, you get to play in the Prem, you will be in the window...and I think he knows it Ireland is last chance saloon. We will see I think all of you have to accept, that if he blows this...he has blown his entire career. We have proved two years ago that you cannot play matches with only 10 players...Everyone must be committed to the team, every one must be in..."WeRtogether". As Queens signature said (before he got himself banned)..."The secret is to work less as individuals and more as a team. As a coach, I play not my eleven best, but my best eleven" It is going to be a long season
Well he didn't look fat anyway, nor was he holding up a strike placard. Judging by some comment on here I half expected him to have to enter buildings through double doors.........
A Taarabt thread with actual debate and discussion (and no shortage of excellent responses)? Whatever next? I'm firmly in agreement with Roller that he's an entertainment factor that makes football a bit more palatable and seeing him do something special almost gives me a sense of pride that someone so skillful can be playing for my club. Winning is not everything for me although if we're on a 4 game losing streak then it quickly is but there's a balance). I agree with Wubs too - he's our flawed genius and he's been with or around the club that he's almost part of our identity. I for one, do not have the Millwall mentality of "no one likes us and we don't care" - I actually like it if people do have a certain affection for the club. Grinding performances and over-inflated transfers and wages don't do that. Taarabt is as close to homegrown as we can field (realistically)! I agree with Beth that it is last chance saloon and he'll probably be like a circus show - doing tricks in some Arabian retirement league or China etc unless he at leasts looks vaguely willing and committed to some improvement (even personal). In terms of Uber's question about how you get him to perform, I'd think that a) the manager needs to want to try, b) the manager needs to speak to the senior players (we've got a few eh?) and explain that he's getting a run, we need his creativity and that, while he's never going to be Jamie Mackie, he is expected to make a reasonable effort and keep his nose clean off the pitch and c) explain this to Taarabt - the usual dangled carrot of bigger and better things if he stays fit, does the basic running/covering/tracking back and in return he'll get a run in the team (although occasional substitutions will be required as per everyone else). I think that's pretty much the Warnock model of managing him but we need to be a bit more demanding of him at the same time (this is the Premiership after all). I don't think, between Adel and Arry, that'll happen though.
Great post and answers for Uber, Matt! When can you take over from Arry then? I'm sure Seedorf has a few tips as well as Colin, if you can get hold of him as well.
Que?!25 years old capable of genius and off the back of a successful spell at AC Milan and his whole career comes down to 2 friendlies against Shamrock Rovers and Athlone town, while he is short of fitness and playing under a manager who has disliked him since he hit him on the bonce with a football while doing an interview 6/7 years ago. Completely ridiculous to call it last chance saloon and he has blown his whole career. Surely you can admit that? Anyway I thought Fulham was his last chance saloon? Then AC Milan was his last chance saloon? He seems to spend a lot of time in these last chance saloon’s
I'm only on a week's notice so can be in place before the season. Annual salary requirements - equivalent to first team players fines. I can borrow a copy of Warnock's book from the library to keep costs down and will pretend to be a BBC programmer for an international footy tournament to lure Seedorf out of hiding. I'll make sure there's jobs for all the good folks of QPR Not 606 too...!
I can t believe I'm typing on an AT thread again... I honestly think given our likely set up with one man upfront, AT would slot in well, he gives an out to the defence, can hold the ball, is less likely to be tackled than most, can pass and play make and will score goals from outside the box. I don't care about him tackling back, we need someone to give us the ability to move forwards and relieve the pressure on the defence rather than joining in with the defence. I do care though if he is unfit, fat, wanting to be somewhere else etc etc etc etc, I would also worry for him in the dressing room, JB, rio, Dunne etc are not going to pussy foot around for fear of hurting his feelings like maybe we used to. As always its down to AT to show his head/fitness is right and for HR to give him another chance, sadly i cant see either of these happening.
If any of Rio, Dunne, Clint, Barton have coaching or management aspirations - I think Barton is 'doing his badges' (and already has whittling) - then perhaps they should see Adel as a case study rather than moaning about him. Learn from Redknapp's man-management ("legendary"™ skills. Or volunteer to get him onboard themselves.
I'm pretty sure that at one time or another most of us have had within our circle of friends that one individual that had the gift of the gab. He was usually the one the made things happen. If there was a punch-up, it was usually him that started it, but he was seldom around when it finished. He was the one that never had any money, but you tended to ignore that for the most part, buy him his drinks and pick him up and drop him off because he was for the most part fun. But he was also unreliable, seldom turned up on time, or sometimes just turned up when nothing had been arranged, then harangued you into dropping everything to take him out. He'd always borrow money and cigarettes, and you had to buy him his kebab on the stumble home too. In my case his name was Iain. The thing was, you and your friends in the immediate group tolerated him for a number of years. But then he just started to grate. The unreliability. Being used as a bank, but never getting any of your hard-earned back. Constantly having to pick up the pieces or calm things down. Others on the fringes of the group didn't see any of this. For them, this person lit up the bar or the club, was entertaining and engaging. Oh, and the ladies loved him. There eventually comes a time when the rest of the group moves on simply because the straw has broken the camel's back and they can no longer put up with all the ****. They have to live to certain rules and courtesies, but he has existed almost entirely outside of that and they have been subsidising that. Those on the fringe wonder why and simply think the group are ****s for dropping him. I'm sure many have similar tales to tell.
A wonderfully observant piece there Uber. Sadly, the one my group knew passed away last year but it's a very true analogy...
The chances of Harry (or any other club manager) being involved in any form of a transfer of a player leaving the club are virtually zero. This used to apply, but only because the manager would be handed a brown paper bag. Harry has always stated that he leaves all the negoiations to the board & has no idea of what is in the individual's contract. I can't believe that Adel would be stupid enough to go on strike. This would allow the club to dismiss him without redress but still retain his registration. Even Adel's brothers/advisers could not be that stupid!
This is true, but basically he gave up on him after he missed the penalty against Norwich. The only one he didn't score for us, but that was enough for HR to then decide we were better off without Adel.
As far as analogies go, Ubes, that could apply to probably too many of our squad in the last 2 years to be purely attributable (is that a word) to Adel alone. Maybe, as a club, we've grown up as per your example but, to be honest, we're mostly adults on here and we rave about a sport where people run after an inflated sack. Throw in the histrionics we love to hate, the opinions, the banter etc and I'd make the counter argument that football IS a childish indulgence and I, for one, don't ever want to grow up in that respect. Real life is stressful enough in the modern age. I don't want to be in a position where the entertainers (flawed as they may be) are a source of annoyance in the grand scheme of metrics, targets, objectives and clinical, professionalism. I don't want my few forms of escapism to be tainted by those ludicrous things we are meant to take seriously in the usually air-blown sense of perfectionism that people who believe they are approaching are actually missing by an increasing distance. I want to treat humans as humans. I don't want to chastise the mistakes of young men 10 years younger than me who can put a smile on my face through their brilliance. I don't want to berate normal people who err in a way that simply makes them human. I don't want to criticise those who aspire even if they are deluded or not suitably motivated to make their hopes a reality. I don't want to condemn them for not doing this or that. Otherwise I can see a trail of "what ifs" and "if onlys" in my humdrum existence and know that I shouldn't be throwing stones from within my transparent plastic house. I want my silly passion for a silly to game to linger as long as possible and will try to maintain my childish hopes and views of it along the way, setting myself up for falls and disappointment along the way but always ready to pick myself up for the next foolish dream. I'd even go further and say it's the footballing authorities, owners, managers and coaches that are the leaches - sucking our resources for even increasing prices while reducing the entertainment in an entertainment business in the pursuit of success. I have a lot of sympathy for DT's view that we, as a nation, have a sense of superiority that stems from a purely historical sense while we crush individualism and delude ourselves about how we are being better than we are. It is a disease that I've seen everywhere I look - people covering their posteriors by making stats that justify their existence while things slip further away from the excellence we did once achieve nationally before these targets and ideals were implemented. Something to ponder while I, in my flawed pursuit of targets and perfectionism in my job, am passing time on a forum during work hours. Sorry, I got a bit carried away there (moreso on the edit). PS I reserve the right to berate the Marlon King's of the world.
Beth WeRtogether is just a marketing slogan and a very old fashioned one at that . I do not think the squad are together anymore than any other football team... If a good money deal comes along to any player ... They are off It's a little bit if brainwashing IMO a very weak rally call at best We were very lucky to get promotion IMO and this slogan is just bullshit It affects the poison and ups the anti on a divided subject like Taarabt What happens on the pitch is all that matters and yes the team did dig in at the play off final and yes we got a result The QPR squad will bound to have natural divisions within it because of money and fame etc Harold is not together with QPR yet He has only just starting calling us ... Us . Harold is a pundit in his own lunchbox Saying WeRtogether and being it a long way off IMO
