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Hull City's Lack Of Homegrown Players Is Appalling

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  1. Cortez91

    Cortez91 Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Hull City will only be able to use 19 players in the Europa League instead of the limit of 25 because of an appalling record in producing homegrown footballers, who must form part of the squad. Hull haven’t had a local talent make more than 20 appearances in a season for 14 years. Boss Steve Bruce has demanded the club prioritise an academy upgrade.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...on-sacked-Yorkshire-disciplinary-reasons.html
     
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  2. BillyBobBallbag

    BillyBobBallbag Well-Known Member

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    You've posted a cricket link you wet sock
     
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  3. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    It's the sixth section down.

    It is shocking that.
     
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  4. talisker

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    You posted a Daily M*&l link that is bad enough!
     
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  5. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    2things.

    1 I am not trawling through a page of SuitedAndBooted's fave rag just to find a snippet.
    2 Our Academy is a joke. This would have all been resolved if the greedy council had let AA have the KC, cos he would have develloped the area surrounding it.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    OT but how is it greedy to turn down an offer of zero pounds for something that cost £36m to build?
     
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  7. Cillit Bang

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    How exactly would Allam building a hotel/casino/shopping centre have helped the academy? Unless he wanted some cheap labour???
    I agree wholeheartedly our academy setup is piss poor as the results show, but blaming Hull City Council for holding on to one of their Crown Jewels is the ramblings of a ****ing ******ed caveman!

    As far as I was aware (and I'm prepared to be corrected- this was just the impression I was given!), any football clubs academy was the centre of a circle with a 2 hour/60 mile catchment area?
    So, that being the case, building it in the city centre would be a poor choice as over a third of that catchment area would be over the North Sea which would be no good unless we find our own equivalent of Billy The Fish!!!
    The academy would need to be around the Melton area- even further west if possible? Therefore potentially covering Leeds, Sheffield, most of North Lincs, Middlesbrough, York and the borders of Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire?
     
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  8. merchantman5

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    where's the figure 19 come from. In previous threads it has been 21 ???
     
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  9. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    they werent prepared to part with it because they are getting money from the floatation of Kingston Communications on stock exchange, thought this was common knowledge.
     
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  10. PattyNchips2

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    I bet AKCJ will have something to say about that.
     
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  11. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    The **** you on about now Patty?

    They sold KC over 10 years ago and it's nothing to do with them now. Apart from sponsorship its also nothing to do with the stadium. The council lose money on it if anything.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

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    'they are getting money'.

    I really don't know what he's on this morning....
     
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  13. Cillit Bang

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    Well we are a more attractive proposition....
     
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  14. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    as far as I recollect, Kcom were floated on London Stock Exchange in order for the council to get funds, as part of a sponsorship deal. Thats why it's called The KC stadium. The HCC are recieving money in sponsorship from the LSE.
     
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  15. bum_chinned_crab

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    Number 1 - you said 'getting'. Not 'got'.
    Number 2 - the sponsorship is literally nothing to do with the flotation on the stock exchange. It has zero link whatsoever and is the same as any other stadium sponsorship naming rights deal*
    So you recollect wrongly.

    *interesting point raised there though, I'm sure the initial naming rights deal was for 10 years. Has this been extended and if so was it announced?
     
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  16. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Even if Allam had been given the stadium there would have been absolutely nothing done yet

    Just look at York, it will take years of planning applications, refusals, amendments etc before anything would be done, and even then it would be the potential income production parts of the development which would take highest priority. Only after the hotel, shopping complex etc were built would there be any sign of work on the Hull City AFC side of things.

    I seem to recall originally this was supposed to be a Sports Village, that's not quite what was being suggested later.

    I don't believe there was ever to be a new academy at the KC, the plans were to move the first team training centre to West Park, no mention of the academy.

    Allam already has land at Melton (supposedly where he was going to build the new stadium when he wasn't given the KC Stadium), so why not look at building an academy there ? Instead we have taken the cheap option of using the facilities at Bishop Burton, in fact looking at things logically an academy at Melton could solve 2 problems :

    1. Dedicated youth development complex
    2. Build a small 10k stadium which could then become the new home of North Ferriby United allowing them the option to actually progress up the leagues as well as providing a good quality venue for City reserve fixtures
     
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  17. Cillit Bang

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    Bollocks again!
    They weren't prepared to part with it because Papa Allam only offered £350,000!
     
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  18. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Although the Council denied any offer had been made Allam then allegedly wanted things like loan guarantees & joint ventures worth more than that in return
     
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  19. DMD

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    As I understand it, a number of figures were put forwards, yours is by far the lowest I've seen suggested.
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    The council didn't receive an offer for the stadium. They offered a joint venture to develop the land and build his sports village. He refused the offer.

    The SMC pays no rent to the Council for the use of the stadium. The rent Hull City and Hull FC pay is used to maintain the stadium and improve it in line with the Premier League rules.

    According to The Omega Man there is no money in developing the land around the KC. I was sceptical at first but now feel he was right all along. The same would apply to developing Melton.

    Whilst Assem Allam can rent a football stadium for nowt he'll continue to do so. He doesn't need to do anything for another decade or so, unless he wants to, of course.

    The ball is with the council, if they want to develop the land around the KC they'll have to do it without Assem Allam.
     
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