With all the headlines and continuous repeats on radio and news broadcasts about a certain club and football player,both of which remain on here nameless,although the crime is sexual activities which break the law and giving the player a second chance. In recent times we have seen players perform for our clubs who have a varying degree of convictions against them,ranging from serious motoring offences,assualt and battery,theft,various serious offences against females. Our own club agreed to this in recent times with the Orr,Brooker and party problems and the " gasheads" to their credit had with it Pipe and dealt with it in a more severe fashion. These people are icons to our young people,earn thousands and can hide behind the loyalties and protection their clubs provide. Do we give them a second chance and let them enjoy the freedoms football provide or rout them all out and keep them away from influencing our young people. Hard choices,I'd be interested to hear your opinions..
Good thread Wizared, hope you don't mind a Bloob posting lol. My thoughts esp given the current situation regarding transfers, I would like to firstly say that I'm a firm believer in innocent until, that said anyone convicted of sex crimes as far as I'm concerned should not be playing end of
Hope you don't mind a Pompey fan invading your board. There was a global thread recently on a particular named sex offender, this one being on the sex offenders register for the next 7 years. Of the 63 replies only about 3 were supportive of the player and his "mistake"! Bristol City fans in particular were keen to show him exactly what they thought of him. If I could have arranged it........................... It's not a hard choice really - rout them out, they are not good examples of humankind and there should be no place for them in this kind of arena.
Punishment should fit the crime really, motoring offences wouldn't really justify removing them from football, (Lee Hughes offence maybe being the exception to the rule) I have noticed if the player is a bit useful (king) there will be a queue of clubs willing to give them a second chance and crowing about everybody deserves a second chance etc, the so-so players (Pipe) get ostracised and forgotten. There is a fair bit of hypocrisy from clubs and fans when it comes to this subject. My own opinion is if it is a sackable offence they should be sacked!
I think that young men getting into scraps is a fairly normal behaviour pattern, but obviously a pro footballer should be setting an example to his young impressionable fans and they ought to remember this, wind their necks in and focus on their short careers. The likes of Marlon King take things a stage further and I wouldn't want anyone like that playing for my club no matter how good he was. As for drinking and driving, well anyone who does that is a fool to themselves and we've seen the damage it causes and I think there's no excuse for it, especially when you consider they have money to burn and a taxi fare means less than pennies to you or I. All in all I think that the punishment should fit the crime both legally and morally, but like banksy says, hypocrisy is rife and if a club (like Coventry) thinks they can get an edge by employing him (King/Goodwillie) then clubs will do so and that's just the way it is.
Temptation of one sort or another is never far away from professional football and I think it's been the same since the 60's and the George Best era. Whether it's drinking, gambling, womanising or whatever, the facts are that these players have masses of free time on their hands and a largely disposable income. They also aren't taught to be good citizens by their clubs, and maybe the clubs themselves need to look at their role as employers to address this ? No-one expects players to be saints and stay in of an evening and as Natch says, scraps and scuffles are very common, but where a crime involves physical abuse against women, or any involvement with minors it should be game over and all clubs should agree not to take someone on who will be on the sex offenders register.
I am going to play devils advocate here and say that if the verdict and sentance doesnt intifer with his contract then shouldnt he be allowed to get on? Would you stop a plummer plumming or ban a administrator from administering? Footballers have it good, but I dont think you can bend the rules to give them special restrictions on what they do if they are convicted of a crime. If a club wants to tear up a guys contract because he has dragged their name down then fair enough, but you cant then stop him signing for someone who is not as bothered next week. The real crime is that a sex offender or women beater that was of age to be tried as an adult when they did it are still young enough to build a career when they get out. If you gave perverts and violent crims 15 years inside then it wouldnt be an issue.
People like this should be banned from football imo. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-13918842
Just a question,the majority answer I already know and agree with,would you let a player like that walk out at wembley (or any stadium) holding a childs hand or sign autographs,prior to the start of the match...? No way.......
I love the term "womanising" Here you go then Banksy "womanising" "womanising" "womanising" "womanising" "womanising" "womanising" "womanising" "womanising"
