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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Quinninho, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    ^ This
     
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  2. Baz The Mackem

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    Didn't put any money in last summer & by the look at this summer it's going to be the same. Short doesn't care anymore & I did say this last season to.
     
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  3. marcusblackcat

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    Why? The grass isn't always greener - what if we get a chairman/owner like Vincent Tan and he wants us to play in Blue and White? IS that better than what we've got?

    There is little investment from the type of person that would push us on to the next level in football - Sheik Mansour (sp) and Roman have their clubs, I very much doubt that anyone of that ilk will be around for us to be happy about coming in. Effectively
    you're saying that a steady owner who has invested heavily in the club you'd like replaced - but you don't know who with as there's actually no i=nterest? <applause>
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's staggering that anyone would want Short out without a credible alternative.

    Football has changed and the amount of reasonable people looking to own football clubs has diminished.

    Ashley has been looking to offload Newcastle for ages and there are no buyers. I can't see a queue forming at Villa Park.

    As you say there are only the super rich, who wouldn't touch us or Newcastle, or the lunatics who own Blackburn, Cardiff, Leeds etc.

    We're in our 7/8th Premier League season, watching internationals in a great stadium & an owner who doesn't borrow huge amounts on behalf of the club. It would be easy to do what the Hull owner is doing and lumber the club with massive debts.

    Some people have very short memories and a distorted view of reality.
     
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  5. Poyet's Eleven

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    £14m bid put in for Borini would suggest otherwise
     
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  6. BishopSAFC

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    Bravo well said,it will soon catch up with the teams that throw money here and there,just watch teams like qpr get in the ****e again
     
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  7. password invalid

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    wise words here,always plenty of bar room managers ,players and owners ,debts are debts at any level and all my life i have avoided them,the amounts are huge as is the high risk involved,i think the man who signed scocco would be the first on my arse kicking party list
     
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  8. clockstander

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    He may yet deliver, as with all of our strikers this season is make or break.
     
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  9. JustMeMan

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    Short v fat mike
    Think I see some bitterness and jealousy
     
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  10. HorsleyHillCat

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    Heard nothing here, having said that would'nt be suprised though!
     
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  11. Brian Storm

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    I'm glad Short is actively trying not to increase our debt. Is there something so wrong about trying to get us running in the black on a monthly basis? Di Fanti was a mistake, but a mistake made trying to sort this mess of a club out. a mess that had no quick fix and was established long before Ellis took the Chairman role.
     
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  12. Blunham Mackem

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    If the club were for sale, we'd know about it. Someone would talk...
     
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  13. Baz The Mackem

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    We really going to improve from signing a player we had last year. If we do sign him then I think thats a big chunk out of money pot.
     
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  14. Baz The Mackem

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    Has short really invested heavily tho? I don't think he has pal. the way I see it is that Short is happy just being in the league.
     
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  15. Brian Storm

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    And if we don't we're even weaker than last year. That's the problem with loan players. Can't wait till we don't need them, could be a good amount of windows until we can do that though.
     
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  16. Poyet's Eleven

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    Well as things stand, signing him will improve us
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    Do you think we'll improve by not signing him?
     
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  18. thickhead

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    The only rumours I've read concerning Ellis Short are those generated within this thread. Short has certainly put money into the club by underwriting debts and eventually paying off those debts. His main priorities for the club are to get it into a position of solvency and self sufficiency, where the club actually pays it's way and meets the Financial Fair Play rules. The FFP is a fairly new EUFA policy and will get stricter as leagues get used to it. Any club that wishes to enter a EUFA competition must meet FFP rules, so Short will push the club in that direction. If he injects personal funds into the club, it may well backfire if SAFC qualify for a EUFA competition, only to be disqualified and fined for financial misdemeanor. So I expect this is the main reason why he fails to throw cash at the club.
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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    Amen, don't care about being banned from Europe and all that bollocks, just well run club for me. Hope we can build a self sufficient brand.
     
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  20. monty987

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    Why do smaller clubs like Spurs (36,000) spend about £90 m last season and we spend peanuts ?. We had better invest and there are plenty of players, and Chelsea have spent up so there is a start.
    Stoke have signed " the new Lionell messi" for £3 m from Barca, so there must be other cracking players at that price.
     
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