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2011 wdc

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by SteveG, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. SteveG

    SteveG Member

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    Hamilton had to fight tooth an nail with a faster Ferrari and the FIA all season to win his crown. Hell even Button saw his 2 second advantage dissappear half way through his championship winning season. This year is different. So good is Vettels RB car he could drive round chomping on a box of Castellas and still win at a canter. In fact I'd say he's probably forgotten what its actually like to be in a race such is the dominance. Not his fault of course and he is a damn good driver. I blame Mclaren and Ferrari for their utter and miserable failure to get even close to RB over TWO years. Sour grapes ? You bet. But all the same if the season carries on as is then a victory thats hardly had to be fought for will be a hollow one.
     
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  2. jerseymackem

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    It definitely won't be a hollow one for Vettel, he's had the best car due to having a brilliant engineer in Newey and probably giving great feedback and he's consistently been better than his teammate in the same car. I just hope that someone will catch up soon, otherwise I can see the ext few seasons becoming pretty boring! Also, completely off topic, have any drivers ever won every race in a season?
     
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  3. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    I doubt the bookies will take any bets on Vettel winning the WDC. - they may take bets against Vettel winning all the rest.
     
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  4. genjigonzales

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    Wickedly insightful, SteveG, but we've already had this crap.
     
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  5. North North Watford

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    A world championship is never hollow. Not even the 1994 one.

    That said, Senna in my eyes remains the greatest, and will take some beating.
     
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  6. TheModestMatt

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    Aero Aero Aero thats what McLaren and Ferrari cannot get on top of. Red Bull could even start working on next years car because of the lead they have. Heres looking at 2013 when the regulations change, OR 2012 if they being testing back :)
     
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  7. Eat Sleep Watch F1 Repeat

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    Didn't Newey say he does not favour the idea of four cylinders in 2013 for a reason I have forgotten.
     
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  8. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Regulations change in 2014 - its just agreed.
     
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  9. Julius Caesar

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    One more year of RBR dominance confirmed.
     
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  10. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    a very selective editing of facts, you forgot to mention that Hamilton probably wouldn't have won his WDC if he'd had a half decent team-mate in 2008. where as all the other champs over the last 5 years have had at least challenging partners.
     
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  11. TheModestMatt

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    Oh S***

    Though i'm hopeful Jean will bring back testing before then.
     
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  12. Julius Caesar

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    Although the Webber-Vettel comparison this year makes you wonder how much of the challenge last year was Vettels bad luck.
     
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  13. SteveG

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    Well lets put it this way Vettel may not care how he wins the wdc but it certainly wont taste as sweet as if he had to wrestle it from Hami and Alonso over a close fought season. In the same way a striker may not care how the goals go in but he'd get more satisfaction dancing through the defence and prodding it thru the keepers legs than the ball going in off his backside. And he'd be more acclaimed.
     
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  14. Masanari

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    Well what about Hamilton? He only had Massa to go up against, Kovi is not up to that level, Raikkonen was blighted by bad luck, BMW stopped developing the car when Kubica was leading the WDC, and the rest were in cars that were way behind the Mclaren and Ferrari.

    And by the way Button did not have a 2 seconds advantage for half the season, he had at the very most half a second that quickly shrunk to a few tenths which only lasted 7 races until the Red Bull overtook the Brawn.

    Vettel will win the WDC because he is in the best car and did the best job in it like 80% of the WDCs.
     
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  15. Delete Me

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    I would be more proud winning the final race and beating a double world champion in a title contending car in the tightest season ever. Or you could just be proud scraping through to the WDC by 1 point with a poor performance against a driver who is having his ass handed to him now by Fernando.

    You slag off Vettel's dominant performances, you spit on the old dominant greats like Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Prost, Senna and Schumacher as well, it's not sticking anymore and everybody hating is just starting to taste bitter, YES BITTER!
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    so....about Hill & Mansells WDC's then?
     
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  17. Delete Me

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    Difference with Mansell and Hill compared to the others above, they won more than just 1 WDC. The people on my other post dominated for years, not just 1.
     
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  18. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    SA, lol, you seem to have crossed arguments, I'm agreeing with you, I'm asking the OP if he thinks Mansell & Hill (Damon) think their WDC's were empty as they both won thir single WDC's in what was obviously the class of the field. Personally I think Vettel is the class of the field atm, and I don't think either Alonso or Hamilton would beat him if they were in the RBR the way he's been driving, yesterday he looked like he was just cruising around on a sunday afternoon.

    on a personal note, if it was me I would prefer to absolutely destroy people then to win by a point
     
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  19. Delete Me

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    ohhhhhhhhhhhhh lol, sorry Miggins
     
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  20. Basil_Brushzenberger

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    I blame Adrian Newey and the Red Bull team, who have read the regulations forbidding flexible front wings, then designed a flexible front wing that circumvents the test used to find out the cheats. If this is the way geniuses work (by cheating) then the world needs less geniuses.
     
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