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A little bit of my QPR ART.

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by GloucesterRanger, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. ForestG

    ForestG Member

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    999s I am just replying to others. My original comment was that I didn't think Gloucesters copy was art which started a barrage of attacks. If someone is not allowed to reply to these posts then this a poor board. I'm happy to stay off this thread if others are willing just post their joy at his work. But I will reply if people, and you have done it yourself, make comments about my view. The fact that you, a moderator, have joined in is very disappointing.
     
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  2. UTRs

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    It's not so much your opinion but more the way you have presented it and keep repeating it which has started to get really boring now mate.

    I personally have no problem with you or your opinion which I also don't agree with. If you think this forum is poor then why don't you try out We Are The Rangers Boys. If you think we are bad then you will not last very long over there mate, they will eat you for breakfast.

    This is my last post on this thread so sorry if I have upset you.

    Peace!
     
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  3. ForestG

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    Thank you UTRs but no one has upset me just disappointed in some.
     
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  4. GloucesterRanger

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    I think this needs to be put to bed. Strangely enough I never once felt criticized as earlier said as NY never once said anything bad about the actual drawing. It's all about what label or title he thinks it should come under. He has a point a view, and even though he's alone with that on this particular forum, it's been said before on other ones...although again usually in the minority. I would like to post this link though from Wikipedia as my last point which is interesting, as it's certainly more in depth about the subject than any of us here. Not trying to change anyone's mind....certainly not, but maybe showing my point of view that art is massively diverse in what it encompasses.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photorealism
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    I personally didn't think tracy emins bed was art
    however I have not made mine yet so if anyone is interested they can have it for the bargain price of 100000 pounds
    free delivery and it will be installed by the artist himself
     
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  6. Grifter

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    Isn't that just a pixelated version of the original photo?
    I don't understand NY's snide comment about making millions. Someone's sharing a QPR related piece of work they've created; have you lost the plot?
     
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  7. Kilburn

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    Tracey Emin's My Bed Sells for £2.5m at Auction

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    Tracey Emin described the sale of My Bed as the 'end of an era'

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    My Bed was nominated for the Turner Prize in 1999

    Tracey Emin's installation My Bed, one of the most famous pieces of British artwork in the modern era, has sold at auction for £2.5m.

    The controversial piece, which divided both critics and public opinion after it was nominated for the Turner Prize in 1999, sold for just over double the estimated price at Christie's in London.

    Emin was present at the auction to see her unmade bed surrounded by empty vodka bottles, used condoms, blood-stained pants and cigarette butts sell for a record amount for her work.

    The piece was eventually bought by Jay Jopling, art dealer and founder of the White Cube gallery, reported the Guardian.

    My Bed was first sold by Emin to art gallery owner Charles Saatchi for a reported £150,000 in 2000. The Margate-born artist originally said she refused to sell the installation to Saatchi because of his Conservative political views.

    Prior to the auction, Emin described the sale of her work as "the end of an era".

    "Saatchi's had this Nineties thing in his house like a time capsule. Now it's historical," she added.

    Explaining the meaning behind the piece, Emin said the bed was left in the same state it was after she spent several days in it following the end of a relationship and offered a "uncompromising self-portrait though objects". She said she hoped My Bed had "changed people's perceptions of art".

    Despite the controversy and losing out on the Turner Prize to Steve McQueen, who went on to direct Oscar-winning film 12 years a Slave, My Bed drew record numbers of visitors to the Tate when it was displayed. It made Emin the leading light of a generation of young British artists (YBA's), and become one of the most well-known and successful British artists of the 21st Century.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tracey-emins-my-bed-sells-2-5m-auction-1454994
     
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  8. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    Tracey Emin's bed for 2.5 mill :emoticon-0175-drunk

    Still better value than SWP though
     
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  9. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    True that, looks like the bed was scored on more than once....
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    the "artwork" isn't even the same in the two photos
    QPRNY wont like it one must be a cheap copy

    my offer stands for 1 more hour
    after that the wife will be home and will make the bed
     
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  11. Uber_Hoop

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    Is copying a photograph or a live scene in front of you art? Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. One man's skanky old bed is another's installation of genius. One woman's priceless Damien Hirst is another's chopped up and pickled ovine.

    In my opinion the ability to reproduce a photograph using pencil or paint requires a talent well beyond the majority of us. It is art to the person that says it is art and it's a copy of a photograph to another. Either way, it's a piece of work requiring patience, a good eye, a steady hand and the ability to see intricate detail that often passes the majority of us by. GloucesterRanger and others with his skill are to be applauded and admired, in my opinion. That is not to say that anybody should be beyond criticism, but said criticism should be constructive and balanced.

    What I like most about pencil drawings is not the extent to which they accurately reflect their source media, but the areas in which they don't, either deliberately so by the artist (yes, artist in my opinion) or otherwise. It is these little chinks that bring the charm, the uniqueness and the subtle differences to the reality that make it art.

    If you want an exact replica use a photocopier. If you want to see something in a different way, in a way the artist views the subject, to see some of the artist's own flaws, biases and licence, then the sort of work that Gloucester has produced is for you.

    It is certainly for me.
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    still time to buy my installation of genius uber
     
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  13. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    But wait ........... Does it come with free steak knives?
     
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  14. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    buy one
    when I come to install I will not make the bed in your spare room
    2 for the price of 1
    and maybe some cheap steak knives as well
     
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  15. Uber_Hoop

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    Are the bed sheets crispy?
     
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  16. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    they can be whatever you want
     
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  17. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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  18. Q.P.R

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    Here's my "QPR ART"

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  19. QPR999

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    Stick to the day job mate ;)
     
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  20. Kilburn

    Kilburn Well-Known Member

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    I just don't get these works...........

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    Many point to a controversial purchase made by the National Gallery of Canada in 1990 as the biggest art scandal in this country. The issue revolved around a well-known contemporary painting by Barnett Newman called Voice of Fire. The painting is almost 18 feet tall and features a simple red stripe on a blue background.

    Although Voice of Fire hung peacefully on loan in the gallery for two years, it was the subject of public outcry when, in the spring of 1990, the gallery decided to purchase the painting for $1.76 million.

    http://queensjournal.ca/story/2009-01-29/postscript/my-child-could-have-done/

    But perhaps that was a bargain compared to this work by the same artist:-

    “Onement VI” from abstract expressionist painter Barnett Newman sold on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 at a Sotheby’s auction for a record-setting 43.8 million dollars.

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    http://twentytwowords.com/canvas-pa...-line-sells-for-nearly-44-million-4-pictures/
     
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