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Neil Taylor to Sue Swansea City FC

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by ShanghaiSwan, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. ShanghaiSwan

    ShanghaiSwan New Member

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    Agree. Unless we get to see the contract, then it's all supposition. But if Newcastle think they can buy for £1m and Swansea think they can't, then it seems it can't have been worded correctly.

    Also, just because a contract is signed doesn't been you can't later get some or all off it changed. There is an unfair contracts law, and a contract that is deemed unfair isn't legally binding. Probably not the case here, but if the contract leaves room for interpretation then it needs to be decided by arbitration or a court, unless both sides can come to some agreement.

    It seems pointless to keep Taylor if he is so determined to leave, but I suppose Swans want a fair price, and they don't consider £1m fair. It will all work itself out in the end.
     
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  2. SussexBlueBird

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    Sincerely hope you're right Jager anyway if he leaves you could always consider our Naylor :emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  3. MabonJack

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    The thing with this is as i understand it, the 1m only entitles a club to talk to him, the swans can still ask for a fee that reflects swansea's valuation of Taylor and if the buying club does not reach our valuation we hold on to him, contracts work both ways and swansea can not be blamed for holding out for us much as they can get, tho i doubt we are looking for 10 big ones i would say it is nearer to 3m personally.
     
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  4. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Thing is mate practically all football contracts are the same, they all have similar clauses so saying a contract is unfair after a solicitor has scrutinised it is hardly going to stand up in court, remember a contract is a legal document and tailor's legal representative agreed it before he signed it.

    I agree that he will never play for the club ever, as we don't need boyscouts in our midst, this kid certainly knows how to burn bridges though, wherever he goes next he will be looked as trouble, and clubs will take note, also if he does go a 25% sell on clause should be added
     
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  5. ShanghaiSwan

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    I can't see why this would make a difference. Both will be forgotten about in a few days/weeks. Lots of players WANT to play for the Swans. They don't really care that Ipswich and Newcastle are throwing their toys out of their prams.

    Even if Taylor goes, HJ should drag the process out for as long as possible. Don't make it easy for Newcastle.
     
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  6. Scottswan

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    The fact that the article claims the ultimate decision lies with the FAW says it all. It would be done by the FA, with a member of the FAW sitting on the panel. Clueless journalism.
     
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  7. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    There is that , the numpties at the FAW will not get a look in I think
     
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  8. Scottswan

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    I don't know man, this kind of thing isn't going to make us look good, especially as we're a "new" team to a lot of people. The last thing we need is a reputation for messing around with money, it surely couldn't help when trying to acquire players (considering we pay less than, well... all of the other teams in the Premiership...).
     
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  9. ShanghaiSwan

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    What you say isn't true. Many contracts have been declared null and even more have had clauses struck out. And these include contracts where lawyers have looked over them. I've signed contracts where the other side wouldn't change some clauses and my lawyer just said not to worry because they will never stand up in court. Contracts are full of unfair clauses. Law isn't a science and lots is open to interpretation. That's why you can get one judge saying one thing and then another saying the opposite.

    Agreement to an unfair contract does NOT make the contract legal. It can still be challenged in the courts and many are. This even happens at big companies where whole teams of lawyers have been involved. It's not a black and white situation. There is lots of grey in between. I doubt either side wants a legal battle though, so I'm sure they'll come to some agreement eventually. This is probably all part of the negotiating tactics.
     
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  10. PremierJack

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    Taylor should see out his contract with us left to rot in the reserves.
    I can't see what Newcastle have done wrong. Taylor has been hawked around by the parasite.
    Newcastle have said they are intrested. I can't believe a contract says £1m to talk too him.
    What good is that? What's it mean? We are willing to pay £1m to talk him but no more to by him. Don't make sense.
    My belief is it is £1m buyout clause. As for Phil Jones and Man U they paid more money and came to a compromise with Blackburn.
    Same will happen with us.
    Then good riddance and you can bet your bottom dollar in a few years time the samething will happen when a bigger side come in for him.
     
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  11. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Yes but for a contract to be deemed unfair in this case it will have to go to court, which it won't as the agent has clearly tapped up Taylor
     
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    Contracts, Contracts, Contracts! We certainly don't have this one, water tight! I hope that Huw has got his facts right as we could well end up looking like amateurs! As for Taylor wanting to sue, well it just shows what a miserable parasite we have got in this one, and the sooner the better we get rid of this donkey, looking forward to him rotting on the Toon bench, what a Pratt! Regarding Ipswich, this will all be down to that Muppet Paul Jewell stirring his chairman up, he doesn't exactly like Swansea City, and I can't see us holding on to such small sums of money (£300,000) for a short term loan that was Priskin. On a final note, while I'm fully behind Jenkins on this, I'm not exactly confident with his contract policy, and I really hope he has this one right!...............
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  13. MabonJack

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    It probably means only serious bidders are welcome, it will save a derby situation arising and wasting everybody's time , i could be wrong tho
     
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  14. Yankee_Jack

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    And if we asked for £10M (as a complete package value) what's wrong with that; it's the opening offer in a negotiation the intent of which is to determine Newcastle's depth of interest. If all the other party wantsvto do is rattle the branches and see what fruit falls from the tree then sod 'em; but, if they're really interested they'll say "Ok Huw, that was quite amusing, now in all seriousness we're prepared to offer X" etc and off we go.

    But, ultimately we still have the right to say not interested, he's not for sale, in which case £1M, £10M, £100M... makes no difference, he's not for sale.
     
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  15. swanseaandproud

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    has huw been on the wacky baccy <laugh> £10 million.....tailor if we can get a million for the lad then we will be lucky, the kid is nowhere near premiership class yet, he has a few years of learning yet before or even if he can make it. let the kid go and make his own mistakes because he will end up a forgotten player playing 3rd team football in front of one man and his dog at the toon, i would never pay a million quid as he has not done anything yet since his non league move a year ago. id snap the toons hands off if they want to give us a million quid for an unproven player. he is so easily replaceable that we should not worry about it and concentrate on players that want to play for us...
     
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  16. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Hello Dai how's things mate ? ;)
     
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    not me sorry im not the legend....<ok>
     
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  18. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Now don't be bashful Dai, we know its you!

     
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  19. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Mercenaries, Taylor and his agent!!! Just step back a year, what was he doing? Playing NON-LEAGUE football. Swans take a punt on him and turns out to be a decent signing, what does he then do! get sent off in the playoffs, nearly costing us our shot at the Premier League. He thinks he above his station, now don't get me wrong Taylor is a good player but not a great player. We've seen reported before, that Taylor refused to take Brendan's calls, which goes to show how much contempt he has for the club. I NEVER want to see him in the Swans shirt again the RAT!!! <grr>I think we are quite within our rite to demand what ever transfer fee we deemed acceptable. I bet Huw did this just to wind Newcastle and his agent up, he's a young player and is well worth 2-3m with a sell on clause.

    Regarding his contract only the club and his agent were privie to this, someone must have leaked out he 1m clause, can bet your bottom dollar it wasn't Huw! If it does state that he can ONLY talk to a club by offering a 1m fee than that's all the club are obliged to do. This one might be for the lawyers!!
     
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  20. TrundleandTateswelshflag

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    IF the stories r true well done huw jenks and taylor is another ****er just like dorus. Just watched wembley on sky plus again and to see dorus and taylor singing "we r prem lge" and celebrating just rubs it in! Anyone who don't want to be here can sod off! Hope dorus plays in goals against us and we put a few past him and as for taylor hope he rots in newcastle resereves and ends up back in blue square. As for pratters, the guy deserves respect as he gave his all in the 2nd half of the season knowing he wasn't going to be with us nxt season. As I say if the story about taylors true he's nowt but a jumped up little weasel. If not he should sue the daily mirror. Tbh though I got a sneaky suspicion that the mirror reporters right. So **** him we only want players who want to play for us! Shame we didn't have 11 players with the commitment of tatey who did turned down bigger money and prem football last year with wba (fact!)
     
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