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The not606 Newmarket July Festival Day3 Racing Thread Saturday 12th. July 2014

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Mouse Cooper - Unsaddling July Course L.jpg

    Newmarket July Festival Day 3 7 Races 2:05-5:35p.m.

    Going As @ 7.30a.m Saturday 12/7/14 Soft

    Weather 31mm of rain on Thursday and Friday morning. Dry since 9a.m. on Friday. Misty start to the day on Saturday but a brighter afternoon forecast with the possibility of an isolated shower.

    Other Meetings

    Ascot 7 Races 1:25-4:50p.m.

    York 7 Races 1:40-5:15p.m.

    Dundalk(IRE) All-Weather 7 Races 2:10-5:40p.m.

    Chester 7 Races 2:15-5:45p.m.

    Tipperary(IRE) 7 Race Mixed Card
    Flat 4 Races 2:25-4:10p.m. National Hunt 3 Races 4:45-5:50p.m.

    Salisbury(E) 7 Races 5:55-9:00p.m.

    Hamilton(E) 6 Races 6:40-9:15p.m.

    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Pricewise >York 1.40 Dusky Queen, 2.55 Bold Sniper >Ascot 1.55 Lancelot Du Lac, Newmarket 3.15 Absolutely So + Georgian Bay, 3.50 Noozhoh Canarias.
     
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  3. Bluesky9

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    I think I have finally lost the plot, it's sometimes as though money has no value.

    I have backed a horse in a sprint with 16 runners on soft ground, sprinting on soft are usually two things that ensure I steer clear, but it gets worse, the thing is Spanish <confused>
     
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  4. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    May swell just chucked ur money in the bin!!! <laugh>
     
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  5. woolcombe-folly007

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    3.30 York- G-force - 3/1

    Put a line through his last Sandown run, he has a lot of ability, should take some beatinf
     
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  6. Bluesky9

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    I think you are right Wooley. I may get really reckless and do a yankee including all those 20 runner handicaps floating around tomorrow with my Spanish wonder horse.

    I worked on the idea that in soft some wont get home up the Newmarket rising ground, but he definitely will. I also went on the fact he led Kingman until the final 200 yards in a good 2000 Guineas, but it could go the other way and cannot go the early pace and leave himself with too much ground to make up and not enough time to do it.
     
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  7. woolcombe-folly007

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    I have done a couple of small Yankees based on soft ground form only, huge prices but we will see, as yu say touching big field handicap on soft ground is pretty much digging your own grave but hopefully I have picked some of Those shovels <laugh>
     
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    4.35 Chester Innocent Touch- 3/1
     
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  9. DAYO10

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    Wooly u the man :) - just got in from a work's night out to find u put PWISE up - who needs Stickwise haha - only kidding.
     
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  10. SwanHills

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    Bluesky9, the plot thickens, SherlockSwan will check it out............<yikes>

    Newmarket weather has now reached us down here, today we are due for rain, thunder, lightning, the lot. Stay indoors and enjoy what's left of daughter's birthday party yesterday. Anyway, need to soothe sore heed............
     
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  11. stick

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    As another wise scribe pointed out on here a few weeks back it has been extraordinarily profitable to follow the 2000 guineas runners this year and we have two out today that are very interesting in ERTIJAAL 12-1 Nkt 3:15 and NOOZOH CANARIAS 6-1 Nkt 3:15
     
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    Ditto.

    Beautiful day here in York and expected to stay dry and sunny. Doubling G Force with Slade Power for me.

    I hear they are very keen on Cougar Mountain but surely this is too much of a step up for him.
     
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  13. Ste D

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    Have been sticking to mainly footy bets of late but I like the look of pumped up kicks in the 5.00 at tipper hairy @3s looks like a decent investment
     
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    Itsnotnowcato @ 3/1 -8 45 Hamuilton......
     
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    15:50 Newmarket - Gregorian e/w

    (Bluesky9, Spanish horse too hard to figure for me, so will go with selection at the 16/1 currently available. Not successful at Group 1 level so far but could well put in a decent run today).
     
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    1.25 Ascot

    Savoy Showgirl 7/2


    Surely Savoy Showgirl must take a truck of beating today. A full sister to Richard Hannon's lightly raced twice Group 3 placed Pausanias (retired now), Savoy Showgirl built on a promising debut (behind the reopposing Juventas;5lb better off) with a really likeable victory over 6f at Haydock back in May in soft ground. Under Willam Buick, Savoy Showgirl was always in the front line and having looked headed 1f out she battled back gamely to score by 3/4L in a race that has worked out very well. The slightly unlucky debutant runner up Malabar has since come out and ran a blinder in the Albanny Stakes at Royal Ascot when a fast finishing 4th whilst the 4th home (also making debut) has since won a Maiden in nice style. Additionally the 3rd and 5th have both run with a lot of credit in defeat subsequently and it looks some very decent form. For her efforts, I think a mark of 77 definitely underestimates Michael Bell's filly who enters Nursery company for the first time and the excellent apprentice Louis Steward takes a very handy 5lb off her back as well. Although her win came on soft, Savoy Showgirl seems to handle the quick conditions she is likely to tackle today just fine and her brother seem to enjoy quick ground so I have no worries in that department. She's also stepped up to 7f today which looks like it will suit massively judged on her two career runs and Pausanias did all his racing over 7f/8f and the extra distance looks sure to suit on breeding as well. With the yard in flying form, I really think its going to take a very well handicapped horse to beat Savoy Showgirl if making natural improvement and I've had a sizeable bet at 7/2s.
     
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  17. smokethedeadbadger

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    Roto, what's your thoughts on Educate today? Seems a ridiculous price at 25s
     
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  18. ROTO

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    I would be very keen on 1.55 Ascot Discussiontofollow 10/1 if it wasn't for the draw in stall 1. A progressive an unexposed sprinter, this 4 year old was definitely unlucky when 3rd in the Paddy Power Scurry in the Curragh 2 weeks ago (winner won again since) and a 3lb rise seems very fair to me. The drop to the minimum trip today could be the making of Mike Murphy's gelding as he has a superb cruising speed and he'll love the quick ground. As shown at Royal Ascot and Yesterday, there seems to be a definite bias for high numbers in the sprints which would make this fella's draw potentially the worst in the field (there is a lot of pace low though). I've no doubt that Discussiontofollow has a lot more to come in this game and hopefully his stall is not the difference between defeat and victory today.

    It's going to take an absolutely herculean effort for Educate 25/1 to win the John Smiths Cup today under top weight of 9-10 and a mark of 112 and I can't advise anyone to back him. The positives are he carries weight very well, I think York's long straight is absolutely ideal for him and he should get a fast pace to aim at which should be ideal but the last 5 winners of this have carried 8-11 less than 9 stone and its an astronomical task facing him today. I really hope they just drop Educate close to stone last and have him try pick off horse from the back of the field but I really think the absolute best he can achieve today is a place. I bloody hope I'm wrong though and I will be absolutely over the moon if he can win this.
     
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    Literally just posted. Will be an amazing performance if he won today.
     
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  20. smokethedeadbadger

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    Cheers I'll just have a small EW on it then, wouldn't want to leave it alone and then it do something
     
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