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Did we go out with any honour, England that is

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by 13thtop, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Dannyaccherini

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    Hell no, I still find it incredible that 2 players from a team who was arguably the worst in the World Cup still manage to be sold for £55M.

    You could name 10 left backs and wingers who are better and are going to better than these 2, sums the Premier League and English football up really.
     
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  2. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    This pretty much sums it up for me.

    I might be wrong here but I'm sure the USA play a lot of friendlies together, many more than England do.

    England internationals just don't seem to bond, maybe it's because they don't spend enough time training together but we do just look disjointed. Aside from that, the fact that we play 90's football is a big thing for me, a refusal to evolve has seen us basically decay as a footballing nation.
     
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  3. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    The decay of the nation is caused by the wasted money spent on the new Wembley instead of using the cash to build a cheaper, more central alternative on the m6/m1 junction. The rest of the money should have been distributed to give access funds to the local FA's to pay for better coaching training and to buy/save local pitches and playing areas. The FA is the problem and it's London centered ideology is killing the game.
     
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  4. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    �� I see Belgium a lot like us just with better players. USA played with great spirit. Good players and spirit will get you only so far, both or at least more than the others and you'll win.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

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    Our league is completely dominated by cash, almost every single aspect of the English game revolves around money. A cash-rich league absolutely flooded with foreigners and a reluctance by our homegrown players to move abroad to sample a different type of game. The national team is suffering because England is a hub for overseas talent to come and get silly pay. Correct me if I'm wrong but we must be miles ahead (if that's the right term) of every other league in the world in terms of how much money is involved.

    Definitely an issue anyhow.
     
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  6. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    You'd be surprised mate. Giants, The likes of Benfica, Porto and Sporting, will rarely pay more than £20,000 a week. In Italy there's little to no money I'd suggest maybe a quarter of the wages that the premier league pays.
     
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  7. Blunham Mackem

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    Apparently there were just 77 English players on the PL last season, equating to less than 4 full squads.

    The sad fact is that there just isn't the quantity or quality available for England these days, with the PL diluted by foreign mercenaries.

    I didn't think we did too bad against the Italians, that result could just as easily have gone our way. Suarez beat us, not Uruguay and we had the better chances in the first half, and maybe because it was a dead rubber for us, it's hard to say what the result might have been if we could have still qualified. On the whole, they were disappointing, but we were hardly humiliated.
     
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  8. Nostalgic

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    Regurlars in the Europea League as against the ECL, and the money is still bigger than paid in S America. One good season and a player is touted around our league for twice the price.
     
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  9. Sidthemackem

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    Our players are ****, essentially. Overpaid bully boys who can hide in their club teams when they're surrounded by quality imports, but **** their pants when faced with decent oppo. Gave up on them before this WC and remain indifferent to the early exit, which is a blessing. Bizarrely, Rooney, who I despise, was probably our best player.

    The upshot of all this is SAFC forever; England, whatevs...
     
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    our other home counties play with spirit which england lack ,also the supporters are better behaved as a whole.
     
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  11. sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover

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    England haven't played with spirit since Euro 96. The England team has been picked for the last 20 years from a select number of teams and many players who may have given spirit have slipped under the radar. How many other countries in Europe would have excluded the European golden boot winner from their international squad? Most European teams would have built a team around him to accommodate him. Problem is the press and the fa are London based and teams and players from the less 'glamorous' clubs are deemed not good enough. It's about time we had enough of second rate West Ham and Spurs players.
     
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  12. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    The septics are nee mugs anymore, they are an up and coming football nation, it's only a matter of time till they are near the top of the tree.
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    England were shameful and the FA have made it clear they're willing to accept second best by backing Hodgson.

    He's a bumbling old dope who allows the players to pick the team.

    If he ****s up the Euros he'll have wasted almost a decade of people's England aspirations ........
     
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    go on then
     
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    62 million over four years for three hours of ****e
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Imagine if we won the right to host the 2014 World Cup and as the host nation, we just got slapped around probably the ****test group in the competition, it would be ridiculous. The team are pathetic, the entire set up from Fifa to Uefa to FA to grass roots, to scaremongering media, to idiots shagging grannies, punching people in bars, shagging your mate's wife, it all needs a big revolution and there's nobody even remotely qualified to put that in place.

    Start with a wage cap, a transfer fee cap and a foreign players quota per team (which would shake up the entire football league) and then see where we are in 10 years.
     
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  17. Commachio

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    Yes, yes and ****ing yes. I'm on your wavelength.
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

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    Problem is it won't happen mate, Sky and the big media companies dictate to the FA, not the other way round. The FA will bend over and let Sky insert a massive Sky HD box into each one of their arses for a few quid a piece. Club football means a hell of a lot more than the national team to our FA, it's how all the FA staff end up driving Bentleys nowadays instead of Cortinas.
     
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  19. Nostalgic

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    Sky stole the top teams from the FA to invent the premier league for no other reason than TV rights to live games. During protracted negotiations with Sky the FA wanted a more even distribution of wealth to lower teams via their games being broadcast but the clubs opened separate talks and the rest is history. Sky chose the games and the rich got it all and left the rest behind.

    Murdoch and greedy clubs were the start exacerbated by rich owners when the Prem took off. A sad indictment of a great sport.
     
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