Bigi...

will he get a chance here?

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We'll probably sell the poor sod tomorrow at this rate.

 

He`s been well and truly Pardewed

 

He's a good passer of the ball and canny on the ball. Shame. He should stay and do a job in the cup games, and perhaps cover Anita/Tiote.

 

The kid is talented imho and he has a perfect temperament and attitude for a professional footballer. Hard worker on the pitch. Only 20 years old. I think we'd be mad to get rid of him. What our top youth players need is game time in competitive games, but what do you do? Drop Tiote? Sacrifice points (or a cup run) to play junior players? You have to wonder why the Gosling was getting game time last season and this lad wasn't though. These younger players will never get better if they aren't playing a higher standard which forces them to sink or swim. I don't think loans seem to really improve players when they are going down to League 1 or 2. I'd pick the 5 most promising/nearest breaking through youth players in various positions each season and say, right, when a senior player gets an injury, or where we can afford to sub you on in a game, you'll all get some first team game time. You'd never want more than two youth players on the pitch at once would be the only caveat. Liverpool and Man Utd seem to consistently bring through youth players, as do West Ham, Everton and many more. That only happens because they get a chance in the first team.

 

Absolutely this.
Most frustrating thing is, we won't win the league, we probably won't get relegated so why not do the above?
Last season being a perfect example yet we gave Shola and Gosling game time.

Stupidly if this players end up being good it will save Ashley loads of money.... perfect

 

I just don't understand. We've increased our revenue 60 million over last season yet we seem to be cutting the wage bill.

 

Hopefully dattening the goose to take it to market.

 

He needs to make improvements to get a chance. He has a lot of the fundamentals but his positional sense is terrible. He struggles to read the game and when to commit forward. Fatal when you play where he does. Still young though. Very quick. He has improved slightly since arriving but he just doesn't seem to have picked up. Worryingly he is pretty weak, gets bullied quite easily.

 

Is this a problem with our youth and reserves coaching set up though? It seems to be the case for almost any youngster we have coming through or sign to develop. Obviously there will always be more failures than successes when making the big step up, but we seem to have a very patchy record. Carroll was a success but it could be argued that our Championship season was the making of him, giving him the game time and first team exposure to push on. Youngsters like Bigi arrive showing potential and in need of the finishing touches to their footballing education but consistently hit a glass ceiling.

NUFC need to review the youth coaching and scouting, but the problem is also likely related to MA's frugal approach to first team affairs. Our team is consistently left too weak for the manager to be comfortable selecting an untried youngster or two. Our squad is so average that errors resulting from inexperience are unlikely to be mopped up by senior players on the pitch. Once we are in the later part of the season the atmosphere is usually poisonous as we will be fighting relegation, reeling from selling any decent players and/or on record breaking losing streaks... Hardly conducive to a good learning environment.

 

Quite possibly. This what is so laughable about the "Pardewed" line. It is coaching at youth, reserve and first team level. This isn't a problem since Alan Pardew arrived here. Keegan didn't really develop young players, Hughton had no real record. Robson was the only one but even then he struggled with the likes of Dyer, Bramble, Jenas, Bellamy. Since the outset of the PL, our club like many others has zero culture of developing young talent. Palace, Southampton, Liverpool, West Ham, Everton, Arsenal and a few others are different but not the norm.

Of course some players just don't cut it. The best from this country are generally mopped up by the bigger clubs. There are exceptions to the rule but maybe Bigi isn't one those. As I say I think he has some good attributes and appears to have a great attitude. I just think he lacks nous.

 

I would personally like to see him get some more game time. I think he has got the ability but you just won't learn the gane craft required to play in the prem unless given game time.

 

To be fair you can learn it at a lower level too. That makes the decision not to loan him to the championship all the more surprising. Obviously some has to come from within. one problem is he has no one to mentor him. Tiote is not the right type to do that (has his own issues). We have a complete lack of game knowledge in the middle of the park.

 

Riddle me this - we lose Donachie, don't replace him - how is that good for development?

I mean, we replaced Llambias AND Kinnear with Lee Charnley, then didn't replace him. We have a smaller coaching and senior exec staff than Wigan.

 

Not difficult. Ashley is a tight arse and is running the club on a shoestring to maximise profits. We are running on fumes.