Really can't help thinking if JT had played the World Cup and captained the side, there is no way we would be going home this early. His organisation and leadership skills would have prevented at least one of the goals in both games we lost.
No, simply because England are utter tripe regardless, they could've had captain America in there with the same results imo.
Think JT without his past history would have made a much better captain and we would still have been in the world cup, obviously JT & Cahill would have been a much better centre back pairing However if JT had come in at the last minute above Gerrard it would have caused a big split in the camp and we would still be out
I dont think its so much that they would have stayed if JT had been captain Doesnt really matter who is captain, the question is would they have gone out so early if he had been in the squad. You think not having the captains armband would have made JT less of a leader. He still would have marshalled the defence same as he always does. If he had been with Cahill in defence, then the defence would have performed better.
The big question is ... you are chasing a goal ... you have a record scoring midfielder on the bench with bags of experience and long shot specialist ... you bring on Jack Wilshire. Bet the Italians enjoyed his aimless running. In honesty England were always going out. JT and Cole in the squad maybe we would still be in for a last day shot at it. Look at the squad, barring Rooney there are no class players in the heights of their careers. All we do is hope the new crop has learnt from this.
JT is an utter ****. That being said him and Cahill would have been the best CB partnership. Certainly wouldn't let him anywhere near the captains armband though.
Not sure why people are obsessed with the captain, all he ****in does is choose who will take free kicks and pens, and they pretty much choose themselves because they all know who is best at it. Other than that, being captain is just an ego thing. Who really gives a ****. England are **** anyway, they could have had the T-1000 as captain and still would have won f**k all.
The margins in both games were small so perhaps a more solid JT led defence would have been the difference. We'll never know but most accept he's a league above Jagielka. It's hard to put a finger precisely on what's gone wrong these last few years for England but going out on pens in the quarters doesn't seem so bad now! Maybe they were the golden generation after all and that's the best we can hope for these days!!
It's a fun thing to debate what if, but honestly no one can do anything other than speculate. I'm sure though that England did lack cohesion and leadership on the field.
The question is would JT have been able to play 2 games in 6 days?? He's better than Jagielka, but he hasn't got the legs of old. And don't think one player would really make a huge difference. The really experienced players all fell short of world class when it mattered, and thats just a rotational thing, they come along every few years, you need luck to get 3 in the same time frame. Ask Spain. 3 world class players in form in one team, and almost any team in this world cup could win it.
He was never quick, CP. He never had legs in the first place. Why would he not be able to play 2 games in 6 days? He played 3 in six/seven days more than once this season, and only Hazard and Iva played more games this season He actually played the most games for Chelsea this season since we won the title 09/10.
I think JT would have made a big improvement, also I was super confused why super Frank was left on the bench when goals were needed or why he didnt start.
Thats true, but before the world cup I said englands lack of pace in CD would prove a big hurdle. The world cup is not the PL as Cahill and Jagielka have discovered. My reference to JTs legs is not so much their speed as their ability to play 2 world cup games in quick succession in the heat and humidity and against top class opponents. Im actually praising JT, not knocking him, but I donT think he was the difference between going out or staying in. Gerard and Rooney were the main cause of that if you ask me.
Fair play but JT can play three games in a week against Messi-Suarez-Rooney in April. In Sao Paolo against Uruguay, the temperature was 17C with little humidity, so no excuses about the weather
Can't help thinking Roy made a massive error in not taking Cole, Baines it would seem was not yet ready to fill his boots, he looked good against PL opposition but came up wanting against the elite, something which Cole had coped with on many occasions past. I'm not saying we would have gone further with Cole instead of Baines, but we would have had a better chance given where two of the goals came from, and as an attacking threat, well do I need to write anything, just ask yourself how many times Baines posed a threat.
No worries. I'm actually happy that those legs are up on a cushion getting lots of rest while he's watching Saurez try and eat his way to victory. Maybe thats one less world class striker he has to worry about for a season or so ??
FIFA is taking ever to act on the latest bite saga. FIFA can easily become a political party in any country - ineffective on all counts.
