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The not606 Royal Ascot Day 5 Racing Thread Saturday 21st. June 2014.

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Below Black Caviar (Diamond Jubilee Winner 2012)

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    Royal Ascot Saturday 6 Races 2:30-5:35p.m.

    Going: As @ 8a.m. Saturday Straight Course Good to Firm Round Course Good to Firm

    Watering: 4mm Thursday evening, on Straight Course Only, No water since then

    Going Stick @ 8a.m. Saturday: Standside 9.4: Centre 9.5: Farside 9.1: Round Course 8.4

    Stalls: Straight Course Centre

    Weather: Dry Overnight

    Forecast: Dry day expected today with sunny spells, 22C

    Saturdays Racecard

    2:30p.m. Chesham Stakes, Listed Race, Class 1, 2-Y-O, 7 Furlongs

    3:05p.m. Duke of Edinburgh Stakes, Handicap, Class 2, 3-Y-O +, 1Mile 4 Furlongs

    3:45p.m. Hardwicke Stakes, Group 2, Class 1, 4-Y-O +, 1 Mile4 Furlongs

    4:20p.m. Diamond Jubilee Stakes, Group 1, Class 1, 3-Y-O +, 6 Furlongs

    5:00p.m. Wokingham Stakes, Handicap, Class 2, 3-Y-O +, 6 Furlongs

    5:35p.m. Queen Alexandra Stakes, Conditions Race, Class 2, 4-Y-O +, 2 Miles 5 Furlongs 159 Yards

    Other Meetings

    Ayr 7 Races 1:50-5:25p.m.
    Redcar 7 Races 2:05-5:40p.m.
    Newmarket (July Course) 7 Races 2:15-5:50p.m.
    Haydock(E) 6 Races 6:50-9:20p.m.
    Lingfield(E) 7 Race Mixed Card: Turf 4 Races 6:05-7:35p.m: All-Weather 3 Races 8:05-9:05p.m.
    Down Royal(IRE) 7 Races 2:35-5:55p.m.
    Gowran(IRE) National Hunt 7 Races 2:10-5:30p.m.

    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. tward07

    tward07 Well-Known Member

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    Hard card and after a poor couple of days im not going big on any.

    Justwice Well - 2.30
    Dandino - 3.45
    Astaire - 4.25
    Absolutely So - 5.00 (NAP)
     
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  3. QuarterMoonII

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    From a betting point of view it is hard to get enthusiastic about most of the final Royal Ascot card.

    The Chesham Stakes starts proceedings with fifteen who have never won over seven furlongs, so get the notebook out and just watch. If you are not skint yet, you could have a go at the Duke Of Edinburgh handicap &#8211; just the nineteen, with Arab Spring trying to give them all weight to complete a four timer. With that name I am not sure how appropriate a winner that would be.

    The Hardwicke Stakes at least gives punters a sporting chance with ten older horses and the quandary of Sir Michael Stoute running two &#8211; Hillstar, a nice spare for Frankie, and Telescope, presumably Ryan Moore&#8217;s choice. Pether&#8217;s Moon skipped his last intended start, rarely wins and is up to the required standard, as are the whole field in a race that the betting suggests is between the Stoute pair, possibly largely because of the trainer&#8217;s record in the race. Cases can be made and dismissed for most: Camborne and Joshua Tree have not run a place between them; Dandino has not had a race in over seven months; what about Forgotten Voice for Mr Henderson and Mr Fallon? Hopefully Ektihaam can finish this year&#8217;s race but almost all his wins have been in small fields.

    I think the Diamond Jubilee Stakes is much more open than the cramped odds about the front two would suggest. Is Aljamaaheer really a six furlong horse or just a seven furlong horse with nowhere else to run? His win record does not inspire confidence. Slade Power may be top of the ratings but he has plenty of off days and most of his wins are not on fast ground. It is hard to fancy Gordon Lord Byron because of the distance and the ground; and several others of these are really handicappers taking a chance. Of the three year olds, I cannot help but feel that Astaire needs soft ground whilst Due Diligence is stepping up considerably in level and would have to keep improving to win.

    The Wokingham Stakes handicap is completely ignorable except for small stakes punters wanting an interest; and whilst Tiger Cliff should win the Queen Alexandra on the ratings, I cannot summon up any interest in the longest race in the British calendar.
     
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  4. Ron

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    I'm not even going to look at the form of the Wokingham. It's a lottery and I have to go with an old favourite and that is Hoof It ew

    In the Diamond Jubilee Stake, on this ground I'm going to take Aljamaaheer to win this.

    15.05 Hamelin

    Not confident about any of them, to be honest.
     
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  5. smokethedeadbadger

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    Royal Ascot

    3:05 - Elidor 11/1
    3:45 - Dandino 10/1
    4:25 - Gordon Lord Byron 10/1
    5:00 - Dandy Boy 16/1

    Ayr

    4:15 - Exceptionelle 5/1
    4:50 - Riskit for a Biskit 10/1

    And thats the scoop 6 races taken care of
     
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  6. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Tipped it this time last year when it won at 33/1, and i'm tipping it again tomorrow, EXTORTIONIST 4 40 Newmarket, 20/1. This is a f**king huge price, there is a chance it just hasn't progressed over the winter but if it bounces back and even captures half of it's 2 year old form it will piss this race tomorrow and make a complete mockery of that price, even more with Crowley boy onboard, Could go either way but 20/1 is a ridiculous price, it's not a 20/1 chance in a million years, i don't usually bet that big but i've had a good week at ascot capped off with Louis The Pios today ( £10 e/w ) so i'm investing £50 e/w into Extornionist so fingers crossed and hope Olly gets some compensation for the absolute crap ride Peslier gave Lightning Thunder today ( don't know why these owners keep choosing or wanting a big name jockey and changing the actual usual jockey on a horse, never works out well most of the time )
     
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  7. rudebwoy

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    Tropics for me in the 4 25- at 33/1 ,drawn on the high side and only needs a return to last summers form to be bang there .
     
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  8. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Away from the scoop 6 races, ew lucky 15:

    3:35 Ayr - Strictly Silver 9/2
    3:50 Gowran Park - MM Dazzler
    6:35 Lingfield - George Baker 16/1
    9:05 Lingfield - Lily Edge 11/2
     
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    4-25 Ascot - American Devil. I always like the French raiders and he has a pretty good record at Longchamps this season. The trainer has changed his racing style so that he now races more prominently rather than being held up and I think that will suit him today.
     
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  10. Grecian Mick

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    One I really do like today is TOKEN OF LOVE in the 3.25 Newmarket. Let me down last week but I really do think she will win today. The omens look good aswell as this race has been won by the favourite for the last 5 years which she is today as some money has come for her and drawn in stall one were 3 of the winners have also come from. Large bet at 6/4.
     
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  11. L_M

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    Racing Post Spotlight on Fast Track for the 4.40 at Newmarket:

    "Off and gelded since last of nine in soft-ground Listed race in September; had won 5f maiden and nursery at 5f previously and, off only 2lb higher than for that nursery success, has to respected for yard which won this in 2012 and 2009."

    Trained by David Barron, odds have shortened from 16/1 to 10/1 with William Hill. The odds of Extortionist have shortened from 16/1 to 11/1 with the same firm. Racing Post Spotlight says:

    "Good sprint 2yo last year when he won the Listed Windsor Castle at Royal Ascot and was third in a Group 2 at Doncaster; well held behind mainly older rivals in Newmarket Group 3 on last month's return before down the field in Listed race last week, when tardy at start and hampered too; premature to write him off but needs a revival."
     
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  12. gingerninja

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    Mo chinn tire out again today....what do you think stick??
     
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  13. ROTO

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    Would have been having a big bet on 2.55 Ayr Lawmans Thunder 7/2 if it wasn't for the draw and Martin Dwyer on boards. I think he's better than a handicapper and unfortunately he missed out in the Royal Hunt Cup by 1 spot earlier in the week. Still think he'll take a mountain of beating.

    4.25 Ascot Slade Power 4/1 will take an awful lot of beating if he's not inconvenienced by stall 4. You've got to hope they all merge down the middle or drift towards the stand side as far side seems a huge disadvantage.

    5.00 Ascot Dandy Boy 28/1 looks to have been targeted at this race for a good time by the shrewd David Marnane. A winner of this contest off a mark of 106 back in 2012, he's back down to a mark of 101 now and I think he looks primed for a big, big run. Again, stall 9 is the negative but hopefully they converge down the middle as I see no reason as to why far side will not be still disadvantaged.

    6.25 Lingfiled Freddy With A Y 11/2 also looks to have a great chance if getting to the front under Hughes and represents a nice sized bet for me.
     
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  14. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Boooom good start to the day <diva>
     
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  15. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Gunna be a good horse that Richard, pretty slow out the stalls as well and clearly still a bit inexperienced and green
     
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  16. ROTO

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    Lawmans Thunder very disappointing.
     
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  17. DAYO10

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    Great start to the day - PWISE at 10s :)
     
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  18. DAYO10

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    Good old Arab spring for happy chops Ryan Moore :)
     
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  19. DAYO10

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    Telescope big bet next for me to cap a great start to Saturday :)
     
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  20. Grecian Mick

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    Happy days and even better price of 7/4. Just back from Ladcrooks and I have taken a price lock in on Due Diiligence at 12/1.
     
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