Marseille enquire about Mapou

I really don't think the lad has been given a fair chance yet...


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...eille-make-enquiry-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-7229382?

Newcastle United keen to offload Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa with clubs starting to show an interest in centre-back

Marseille have touched base with Newcastle United about the possibility of signing Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa.

As reported in the Chronicle this week, the 25-year-old is to be offloaded by the Magpies and had been offered to a clutch of French clubs including Lille, Bordeaux and Marseille.

The media in the south of France are today indicating that Marseille have made an “enquiry” for the centre-back.

But the issue could be wages with Lille and Bordeaux both dropping out of signing Yanga-Mbiwa at this stage with the ex-Montpellier defender thought to be on 3.7million Euros per year.

 

I'd rather give MYM another year to see if he can come good rather than stick with Taylor who I don't think will ever be top notch. Maybe the player is not happy living in England or something though, we don't necessarily know everything behind them wanting to move him on (if indeed they do).

 

Mapou has been Pardewed

 

third choice at the moment,but should be given another year

 

Why are we so quick to off load him? He was a club captain, French International at an early age and with a growing reputation. Played really well with Willo in his proper position yet Pardew now thinks he's crap. Why? Give him a proper chance at CH, please.

 

It's Pardew that should have been shown the door. He's ruined the lad. Mapou has the potential to be real top notch.

 

Pardew has his boy Saylor staying now so everything is good as far as that **** is concerned. If Mbiwa had gone to Arsenal under someone with ability like Wenger he would have been great for them.

 

if the same logic had been applied to colo he would of been shown the door as his first season wasn't to clever

 

Not fussed either way, lad has had plenty of chances and has been poor. He may need more time but I don't think Saylor or Mbiwa are good enough. Pardew doesn't appear to rate either of them, the question is whether Mike will allow him to offload to get a couple of better options in, I suspect not. The problem we have with Mapou is getting decent money for him. He has looked so out of his depth, people will only look at him as someone they can get cheap.

Its not like Luiz who was also not suited to the league, but PSG knew would fair well in the easier French league. Chelsea knew he still had value. With Mapou he came with the reputation of a fringe French international about to break through (he was still down the pecking order) who could play anywhere across the defence. He excelled at right back then centre back for Montpellier but has flopped badly in both for us bar one or two decent games at centre back.

 

Pardew clearly doesn't rate Saylor??

There is reason Mapou didn't go to Arsenal, they looked at him and felt he wasn't good enough or suited to the league. He appears to have been right.

 

Is he on that much money ??

He looks alright in CB, stop playing him as wing back !

He needs time to adapt. Look at colo.

 

If he is on €3.7m per year as being reported I can't see us shifting him very quickly if he wants to retain those wages. Also can't see a club paying anywhere near what we paid for him.

 

We signed him as a centre back so play him there. Mapou is not a full back or a midfielder so don't judge him on his performances there. Remember his time with Willo when they played exceptionally well as a pairing.

 

Any promise he showed was slightly overhsadowed for me by him running away from the fkin ball at everton..in saying that though I'd like to see if if he could adjust to this league, there's obviously talent there

 

That and him trying to pass a ball through bone, sinew and muscle at several times. Its no good using the full back excuse for me, he started his career there. He had more bad games than good at centre back too. Got to judge him the same we do Saylor. Both out of favour, used out of position at times, neither looking good enough. He ain't been "pardewed", he just hasn't performed.

He is thick as **** decision making wise. The Colo comparison is nonsense. Colo looked poor because he was getting bullied with alarming regularity. The class was there. Mbiwa is rash and is very much the French Saylor, maybe worse.

 

Give the lad a chance. He's only been here 5 minutes. He's very young for a centre half and will take time to adjust to the PL.

 

Yeah the whole pardewed thing just gets thrown at anything..you are right re decision making I was smh at so many balls he played from the 18 yrd and therabouts. Could be nerves and language 'barrier' or whatever and if so hopefully he gets over it, there was some promise imo just the bad obviously far outweighed the good

 

This is the only thing I'd agree with, he is only 25. He has had 18 months though. Even Solano started to get to grips by that stage, and that is the longest I've seen someone take to adjust. He has had plenty of time. The worry for me is lack of a brain.

 

The thing is we have Saylor who has been **** for years with the odd (and I do mean odd) average to ok spell, Williamson who tries his best (better than Saylor has ever been imo) but has no pace, long ball merchant and let's face, a clogger, and Coloccini, the best we have, probably the best CB we have had in recent years but probably past his best now. We shouldn't be getting rid of Mbiwa now, it would be insanity imo. Pardew has to take some blame. I mean Mbiwa had a great little spell with Williamson and was dropped for no reason and then near the end playing Saylor as part of his 3 CB's and not giving Mbiwa a chance is just plain ****y On Pardew's part.

Also, say we drop the acquired 8-10 million for Caulker. He could easily flop up here. I mean Cardiff conceded 74 goals last season, only behind Fulham who had 84. Caulker couldn't have been doing that an amazing job could he? The two times I saw him was being turned inside out against Sunderland and then Shola tearing him a new one at our place. The latter is pretty unforgivable for any Premier League defender. Bearing in mind as well Marshall was seen as one of the best keeper's last season so he obviously had alot to do on top of having to pick the ball out his net 74 times over nine months. His defence didn't exactly aid him that much did they?

 

Has fat **** not realised that although Pardew is a cheap option, the money he's wasted ruining HBA, Marveaux, Mbiwa, Sissoko, Gouffran, Cisse etc far outweighs the money he's saving