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Can England win the world cup?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, May 27, 2014.

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Can they?

  1. Yes

  2. divvent be so fooking stupid man

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  1. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Nobody envisaged greece winning the euro's
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm personally basing my opinion on past miserable failures.

    What really does me with England is that, even when we do win, the style of football is poor.

    I agree with your points regarding selection, to some degree, but think it's a very average safe squad.
     
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  3. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    Nee chance. far too many average players in our squad who will get game time. if he dares start with Gerard and Lamps in the same formation, it will say it all about Woy. He's a manager who can get the best out of average players, but can't step up to the big-time.
     
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  4. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    Totally disagree Steve - AJ was by far the best English (arguably best in the country) winger leading up to an England squad announcement - consistent for nearly 2 months prior to the England squad and, with Walcott being injured, may have thought "this is my chance" - Andros Townsend got in ahead of him. If you are currently out-performing all of your colleagues doing the same job as you and one of them gets a big promotion ahead of you would than not impact how you performed? It has to me in the past - Football is on a bigger stage but it is the exact same principle. Undeserving get picked ahead of you it will no doubt knock your confidence - had he been in the England squad for that friendly, I reckon he'd have played much better over the remainder of the season
     
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  5. Uni_Mackem_MAHons

    Uni_Mackem_MAHons Active Member

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    Personally I think England could struggle to get out of the group.

    The conditions suit a slower team like Italy, especially in Manaus.

    And as for Uruguay; they are pretty much playing at home. The conditions will be really similar for them.

    England finishing second in the group is realistically the best I would hope for.

    One positive out of that though is the fact that the opposition in the next round comes from possibly the weakest group in the tournament, so anyone who gets through should have a decent chance.

    Like I said though, this is just my opinion on it. I could be massively wrong and England win every game 4-0.

    In all honestly though, I couldn't give a **** how England do. I just want some decent games of football to watch.
     
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    Reckon Belgium are the likely European contenders they have a very strong squad
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    England don't have any particularly threatening style of play, we're not known for opening teams up or pass and move, or counter attack, or long ball. We basically just cross, cross, cross until maybe a chance is created at some point, or rely on individual skill, which is why we must start Barkley and Lallana.

    Hodgson is a dinosaur, tactically inept and he proved that at Liverpool. We will be lucky if we aren't laughed out of Brazil.
     
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  8. Sunderlad

    Sunderlad Well-Known Member

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    These are my predictions

    England 0 Italy 0
    England 1 Uruguay 2
    England 1 Costa Rica 0
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Not being rude but you're describing Man Utd last season ....... I do agree that Hodgson is totally wrong for the England job.

    We've done absolutely nothing with the same old routine so we bring in a pensioner who failed as a player and slogged away at 20 different manager's jobs.

    People talk about his 'huge experience' but, in reality, he's managed in the Arctic Circle with clubs no one's heard of.

    He also really annoys me when he uses 'big words' in an attempt to sound more intelligent than he is <doh>
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Lol, not offended by that mate, you can probably draw a lot of similarities between Moyes and Hodgson.

    Hodgson's a nice guy, says and does the right thing, behaves himself, no controversy... typical FA Appointment. I'd sooner have anybody with a bit of passion about them, there's plenty of them about without me having to make a list. I'll eat my entire hat collection (two) if Hodgson is deemed even remotely successful as a manager once his time is up.
     
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  11. Shy Tall Knight

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    Just take one look out of the window today and you'll see why England won't win. It's pissing down and cold, Brazil isn't going to be like that, it'll git hot and clammy and the players won't be able to stand it.

    I expect us to clear the group stage with ease, after that it's anyone's guess but win it? Nah! Shame though.
     
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  12. ROBOJOHN

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    1st round after group stage only
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    What I can't fathom is whether there's a 'carved in stone' set of rules at the FA.

    No matter who they bring in we eventually play the same style of safe grinding football with a million side-footed passes every game <doh>
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I've never been less interested in a World Cup from England's perspective, unfortunately the next two world cups are likely to glean less and less interest from me as well. Russia and Qatar for **** sake.

    Football is just ****ed on every level, there used to be a few lads in every class at school who weren't interested in club football "I just support England" type of lads, I wonder if that breed exist nowadays. The players coming through now won't appreciate the value of an international cap, they'll probably get theirs embroidered with bling and wear it hanging out of their arses.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    That's 12 years down the pan as far as I'm concerned .......... England will probably have a superb team by Qatar but won't be able to perform in that heat <doh>
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Not to mention the fact that it's in January and club team's seasons might end up ruined because their players are injured at the pointless world cup. If I was owner of any PL team I'd be implementing it now that come 2022 none of my players can leave for the World Cup, if they don't like it, get out.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    To be honest Terry, it wouldn't surprise me if the players don't want to go.
     
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  18. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    Spot on Terry - Tell FIFA (who, let's be honest, are more corrupt than the Mafia!)where they can stick it and if they don;t like it then tough **** - Sunderland may have a chance in 2022 ofd winning the league as our players seem to be immune from WC selection!
     
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  19. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    I was at Wembley for the 2-0 defeat against Chile. We were ****e then and we're ****e now. At least the youngsters are getting a run out, but we have about as much chance of winning as Scotland...
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

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    I don't think it will be taken anywhere near as seriously as it would be if it were in a real footballing nation, Sepp's **** the bed and he knows it.

    It's ridiculous mate, the entire season will be thrown into disarray by the world cup. How nobody has even considered this at the time is beyond me, probably too busy digging holes to bury cash in, pack of ****ers.

    That's literally what they're getting though, a run. They'll go all the way to Brazil to run around in training and possibly get 3 minutes of a game if they're lucky, this England side has been labelled 'refreshing' .... WHERE? It'll be the same old **** failing on the pitch again.
     
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