O/t Sunderland gets UKIP MEP as Tories and Lib Dems are booted out

I was being sarcastic.


However, I must say "the majority have spoken" is taking it a bit far, when only 34% voted. Or did you mean a majority of a minority ?

Low turn out votes mean nothing (in terms of knowing what the general populace are thinking), as the only people who vote in them are ones who have strong beliefs in a particular direction.The only concrete conclusion that can be drawn from this vote is that the majority dont care enough to vote.


This applies to all the EU countries.


France was the same thing in 2002, low turn out for the 1st round of the presidential elections, National Front get through. 2nd round high turn out, national front get battered 80:20

 

That's what worries me.

An uniformed vote is a dangerous vote. I happen to agree there's a problem with the EU and immigration but solving those problems will create their own, I'm more worried about the nhs and front line services, the lack of industry alarms me, the state of the economy! Things that need addressing and stabilised before doing something like leaving the EU. Do I trust UKIP to sort those things before carrying out what they intend? Do I ****, like you said, they're idiots.

Just wondering if anybody who voted UKIP are educated on how leaving the EU will effect our country? As UKIP tend to avoid informing the voters of the cons and just deliver the Pro's. It's going to be messy and will make the cost of living spiral.

 

The Lib Dems ****ed up badly when they joined with the Tories. If they hadn't done that, they would have been very strong contenders and UKIP wouldnt be on the map. People are looking for an alternative and Lib Dems lost all credibility in the general election.

mind you, world was a better place when people voted for the Monster Raving Loony Party when they want to place a demonstration vote instead of the "I'm not racist, but..." party

 

I voted but that's between me & the ballot box.
But I will say this, it wasn't for the LibLabCon act.

The EU in all it's various guises is & always has been corrupt as ****.
I despise it & everything it stands for.
I would hazard a guess that if all major western European nations held a referendum on EU membership, 95% would vote to pull out.

It's ****, always was & always will be.
I hope the whole organisation come crashing down around the fat pigs at the trough.
Germany & France have most of the say anyhow, do you seriously want to be run by that ugly bitch Angela Merkel?

Look what they did with the Irish over the Lisbon treaty.
They voted no & were then threatened & asked to vote again.
It's like asking a lass if you can **** her, her saying no & then you threatening to punch her to **** unless she let's you.

 

Straight-line extrapolation of that would mean around 500,000 in the northern east would vote for a far right of centre Thatcher clone at a 100% turnout.

That's not the north east I remember.

 

EU current implementation is wrong, that I agree with. But the only way the change it is to be part of it.

The only way an independent EU country can have any influence on the global stage is through Europe. If EU disbands, we will be governed by USA and/or China/Russia - not something I want to see happen.

 

Straight line extrapolation is wrong though. As I said in another post, only those with strong beliefs would have voted in the election, in a big turn out you'd see UKIP at 15% levels (old Lib Dem %), with the majority of votes going to Labour and the Conservatives

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/local-election-results-2014-aav.html (part of it below)

UKIP caused an earthquake

UKIP did not cause an earthquake. In reality they won far fewer seats than even the politically toxic Liberal Democrats managed. They did manage to pick up over 160 new council seats, but they were scattered far and wide across the country, meaning that they gained control of precisely zero councils. The only way any of the UKIP councilors will get any taste of political power is if they form coalitions with the Tories in some of the Tory dominated No Overall Control councils. And even then, they'll be the minor player in any coalition, meaning experienced Tory councilors are likely to use these new UKIP councilors as convenient human **** deflectors just as the Westminster Tories have used the hapless Liberal Democrats for the last four years.

The really clear indicator that this was no UKIP earthquake was the fact that their share of the vote actually declined dramatically from the local council elections last year (from 22% down to 17%), and this decline happened despite the council elections coinciding with the Euro elections, which should have brought out lots of extra UKIP voters.

 

It always has been wrong, it was a massive con from the start.
It reminds me of the old Soviet Union when Russia tried to impose itself over over countries such as Belarussia, Latvia & so forth.
The people didn't want it & in the end, as unlikely as it seemed at the time, thanks to a certain Mr Gorbachev the Berlin wall came crashing down.

That effectively shagged the entire Warsaw Pact & ended the balance of power between east & west.
In the end, the people will have their say but it may have to be done through force rather than the ballot box.

 

Its called "The establishment" Woody veer away from what "The establishment" wants and your a goner or your name is blackened take Scargill for example not everyone's cup of tea I know but at the time of the miners strike a direct threat to the establishment with his preposterous "hit list of mines". At the time it was suggested he was mad but subsequent information shows that he was correct.

And what about tapping an elected left wing Prime Ministers phone who authorises that? This country has a ruling society within the general society and that's why your vote means f*** all

 

Nice to see a new party in to shake everything up IMO.

How people can still think the Labour Party have all the answers when they had 13 years in power with massive economic growth and yet still leave the country bankrupt! Absolute shambolic.

 

Is the Labour Party still on the go then?

 

I think you will find that (with 1 or 2 exceptions) that they have morphed into wannabe back door tories

 

I think the whole lot of them are two faced Twa*s who have never had a proper job in thier lives and I cringe with embarressment when I see numpties waving flags at meetings and street corners

 

Did not vote myself as no-one represents my views.

The big problem with voting is the system is so complicated no one understands it, so the majority don't vote on sound judgement, they vote mainly on tradition or because someone has been on the telly (UKIP) and said something they like.

I spoke to a friend recently and he said he was voting labour. I asked why and he said because his parents vote labour. I asked what his views were and they were about as capitalist as you can get, his views were that of a Tory voter yet because he does not understand they system he will vote for a party that does not represent his views because of tradition in his family.

 

Problem I have is the working class voting for them as a protest and thinking they are for the working class - if this was mirrored in a general election there would be some wake up calls. Apparently Farage has stated that the NHS will be ok with them and the deputy head of UKIP has stated that they will privatise parts of the NHS - if they don't know what their policies are what chance have the voters. Also Farage has said now that if this was replicated in a general election they would be up for a coalition - wonder which party that would be with??????

Personally I hate the f***ers as you say two faced t**ts

 

MY mate was a labour MP when they were in opposition in the 90s and was going to change the world when they won, inside of about 2 weeks he had his nose in the trough claiming mileage to London every day for his Scirroco while he stayed down there and his house was jam packed with Houses of Parliment whisky ( the real good stuff ) its only £10 a bottle so i buy loads he told me two faced tw*t, mind have to say it was good stuff.

 

i'll tell you why i voted ukip

firstly what i would like to say i work in the banking industry and its got **** all to do with us!

I see for example - a single bird with 5 kids to 5 different dads getting over £3k a month in benefits and her rent paid, paying no council tax, have i ever seen her kids, no i havnt!

do I see the foreigners coming in everyday asking for bank statements to supply in order to gain benefits, yes i do daily!

do i see that romainians are culpapble for 95% of atm crime in london, yes i do!

do i want some french/german twat controlling our laws, nope!

We have kept the pound because deep down we all know it!

Ukip as retarded as they may seem are actually speaking up for those that are sick of it

A stabbing used to be the headline 10'o'clock news, now its a 1 inch page 12 sub

20% vat, £1.40 for a litre of diesel, £140pm council tax, £150 gas and electric, nearly £10 for a pack of tabs when you can get them is spain for £2.50 (made in england)

the people have had enough

 

I worked for a c**t in the 80's who had a meeting with our shop steward and his brother(it was a family firm)and his brother hit the shop steward with a chair. Allegedly he had also kicked another worker in the face cause he would not work overtime due to previous commitments. What do you know the c**t becomes a member of new labour and ends up a councillor in the labour "cabinet" with Durham County Council - they are all c**ts

 

I used to vote but don't bother anymore. Could never find a box with "**** the lot of them" anywhere on the slip. They'll all just be sitting together in a masonic lodge somewhere laughing their heads off at the general public anyway.