Flyer, with the greatest respect to you and your opinions, I am so glad I didn't travel with you yesterday. I think I'd have gone from elation at the final whistle to wanting to slit my wrists around Fleet Services.
I can picture Flyer in the crowd, standing still, everyone jumping up and down while Flyer is standing there glum faced and muttering "does it matter, if Redknapp is in charge I bet we will come right back down" and looking at Zamora angry faced and saying "**** off you don't deserve a new contract"!
I was happy all the way home, Im still happy as I think hes going. Youll notice it wasnt me who started the baiting thread, perhaps Ill leave it now. Youll also notice its not just me who wants him gone, more and more people want another manager. That will be a landslide in PL if hes still here picking the wrong team and tactics every single game.
Good post, Eamon. We were in a dreadful place this time last year. Changing that, getting out indifferent, unmotivated players with ridiculous contracts and bringing in new, young, ambitious, players is like turning a sea tanker around. It's slow. That Harry's done that in the space of a season (albeit by the seat of our pants) is credit to him. The fact is, as we have seen this season, and yesterday, the tanker has not completely turned yet. We aren't the real deal. So it's work in progress, and I'll judge Harry after the next stage to our metamorphosis to a serious Premier League contender, which will begin during the Transfer Window over the summer...
Yesterday was the biggest day in our clubs history. The reason I say that is a new training ground and new badly needed stadium would not have happened without a win. The current regime would have lost interest ( anyone notice the main mitral in the crowd yesterday). Also the deep deep debt would have taken us on a downward spiral. The future is now bright. We have a lot of the mercenaries on contracts that have now run out. Along with players we will sell in the summer. Swp, Johnson Zamora contracts are no more. Cesar will be gone along with adel mbia etc. If new contracts are negotiated for older players like Barton and green ( even Zamora ) they will not be the same as before. From the mistakes that were made three years ago we have survived and can now look forward. Personally not sure if redknapp is the best man to take us forward. Could he become a director of football and could we have mcclaren back working with him. Or even a malky McKay or Steve Clarke. Whatever we do going forwards it be better us being in perm withat extra 100mil from yesterday's game.
I don't disagree with you about the attraction of QPR having a young progressive manager and a young, talented, hungry and developing squad. But, whilst you may argue that there's no room for sentiment in the game, I believe Redknapp has earned the opportunity to lead the team back into the PL next season, just as Hughes did with achieving survival the season before. Yeah yeah, yeah, it didn't work for Hughes and you'll suggest that lightning is about to strike twice, but I prefer to give the club and Fernandes the benefit of the doubt and assume they're further up the learning curve now. To paraphrase Keynes, if the facts change I'll change my mind, but in the meantime I'm going to enjoy life in La-La Land.
So 1 day after we secure promotion the griping begins. Can't even let the moment soak in before the REAL hard times begin. Wake me up in a weeks time please.
I imagine TF gave Harry one goal this season, promotion. I would also imagine TF allowed him to do it his way, whether it was pure luck or whether it was great man Management ie listening to your players or whether it was well planned, I can't say but I can say he got the job done. This season messy yes but successful yes. Next seasons aim stay up, after that we can look forward a little more, the dream needs to be paid for! I agree that Harry is not the long term future of this club but he definitely was the manager to get us promoted and maybe the man to keep us up next season. PS... Live for today, tomorrow will be here soon enough. Today it's all Sunshine and Champagne for the Mighty Hoops.
we had absolutely no right to automatic promotion when last seasons team had been dismantled pre-season and put back together with a new one in the matter of a few months. this nonsense that because the team has cost a fair bit to assemble that they MUST be world beaters is absurd. The list of clubs who've spent big to no avail is as long as your arm. Burnley and derby are better sides than us - they've been assembled properly over a couple of seasons so they should be too.
I feel exactly like you now I think now Nines. I have little faith in Arry's team selections, tactics, and we aren't playing the sort of football I want to see QPR play. BUT, somehow we are back in the PL, I know Arry knows more about the game than most of us, even though he makes me feel he's forgotten most of it now. Maybe Arry is just a lucky b*st*rd, but maybe then we should stick with the lucky b*st*rd. Like you I need time to celebrate we done it, and today don't seem like the time to calling for him to go!
Not as I remember it. He came in the close season. Took them down and resigned half way into an unsuccessful campaign. Either that or history has been rewritten.
Hearing the interview with Steve McClaren, shed a different light on Harry's tactics and team selections. If SM compliments Harry on the job he has done, then what ever some self-proclaimed experts on here say, I will go with SM's opinion.
I think all the doom-mongers are just a bunch of armchair managers really. The sides who finished above us were all built over a number of years, and given time to mature and blend together. We chucked together some strangers over summer, and still managed to get promoted. We have no divine right to do better than Leicester/Burnley/Derby, they're the product of long term projects. This season's team was a quick fix job. The directive was to give us the best chance at securing promotion, whilst rectifying the most toxic dressing room ever seen in English football. Style of play was always a secondary concern; when failure to go up might've had catastrophic financial implications for the club. I'd refer you back to the McClaren press conference I posted. He knows a lot more about football than all of you. It's easy to pick holes in anybody's work, particularly when we only see a small snapshot of what goes on at the club. Harry + his staff watch every second of training, and select line-ups based on the hours they've spent with the squad. If they see something in a player they feel they can exploit to get a result, they'll select him. We'll never have access to those behind the scenes moments. Incidentally, I agreed with the starting 11 and subs yesterday. I don't think Arry did anything wrong, Derby are just a better team than us. Clough has been building that side for 4+ years... And they've got some young PL quality loans in the likes of Thorne/Wisdom/Bamford.
Well, that's cleared that up then. I'll check on what Steve McLaren thinks before I voice any opinions in future. Much better than trusting the evidence of my own eyes. No one has claimed 'expertise' when criticising Redknapp, you don't have to be an expert to have an opinion. How come Derby got the PL quality young player loans and we got BAE and Maiga? We got lucky yesterday, and I'm delighted that we did.
I'm not denying your right to an opinion, I'm disagreeing it by quoting someone else's opinion. Derby got lucky, nobody could've predicted those players would do as well as they did. BAE did a job for a while, and contributed to our points tally. In the end he reverted to type, but we got enough out of him to justify his loan. Maiga was signed in the last 30 mins of the Jan transfer window as a gamble (admitted by Harry). It didn't pay off but it was worth a crack, no harm done
Cant be ****ed to read al of this.. suffice to say..all those who slated harry and said we were **** were wrong those who said we couldnt do it without Adel are wrong and as for the happy clapper statement..yiou have been made to look ****ing idiots ! i said id save judgement until the end of season We needed to go up...harry did the job QPR hall of fame..Thanks Harry.. allt hos who disagree have no idea of whatis required in a modern footbal team i actually started to doubt myself after reading the **** posted on this board..glad to say im back to reality!1 Henneseys was good guys, only had one but was there.. See ya..
With you all the way on this one. Delighted now the facts are in place and we are up ... none of us are experts on here in any shape or form KD but some have opinions that are closer to the truth IMO I as well as SB and Flyer have all congratulated Harold on the way he has without doubt got us playing solid possession football but from day one... the clever money knew that SM was the magic that made us play a lot more fluid football IMO. The record books show that Harold got us promoted with a result with just 32% possession ... that is black magic blind luck or skill it matters not. The Harold bandwagon is not one I think i will join until our team starts to flow a lot better As always i respect everyones opinion which is this case is the same as SB73 We did get lucky yesterday but somehow we deserve some now and again .. to pile on praise and hero status towards Harold is not where i am. Exactly the same as when I have defended Zamora on here while too many have abused him and those fans should be ashamed. BZ will want to play games and I can't see him playing too many with us in the future simply because i think he will struggle to keep his form and fitness at his age. I rate AJ and no one can really argue that the squad put together by Harold was that fit for purpose in this very tough league. I myself would love to see Granero, Mbia Remy Faurlin and Taarabt playing in the shirt again yet some how they are all now dumped as dreadful players who upset changing rooms ... rubbish IMO Dunne yesterday won us that game yet short memories on here wanted him gone and not even to start the semi or final ... rubbish again IMO I will only state my guess gain and that will be that QPR will add a lot of quality into our team next season Expect this team to be broken up e.g. my favourite Henry was fantastic for us but this type of player will be a target for a lot of championship clubs next year
You really think there was any other option after going down to 10 men against a good footballing side? Get real!! We were well in it till we lost O'neill.
