This is one of the reasons why I now actually hate Alan Pardew

Pardew had no hand in signing those players, it was a case of someone else finding them and them coming here. The summer of 2011 i believe he had a little bit of a say, not with the likes of cabaye and marveaux but certaintly elliot and obertan. If some of the targets that are being touted recently are anything to go by it looks like pardew might have a much bigger say than previous years and that is extremely disconcerting. He loves the 'works arrd' types, hence playing the likes of hayden mullins and harewood over mascharano and tevez.

If this bloke is given free reign in transfers and can actually bring in sort of ****s he wants, may christ help us.

 

Can't wait til next season, now we've "perfected" our new 5-4-1 identity. Really suits Shola, so we can offer him a new contract. By "really suits", I mean he's the only striker in PL history who gets plaudits for NOT scoring, and in a 5-4-1 he's not going to get any chances.

The best news of all is that 3- and 4-0 tonkings will be a thing of the past. Instead we'll be getting beat by just the odd goal, or grinding out 0-0's. On especially fortunate days, where Krul is man of the match, we might get an OG to pick up the odd 3 points. Welcome to NEWcastle United 2014/15.

 

Well, shola averages 3 goals a season, if we don't concede goals, that is a potential 9 points per season. That has infact, increased our current guaranteed point tally of 6 by a further win. I say this club is on the up, and anyone who say's otherwise is being a negative Nancy.

 

So if they have been really awful signings, they are Pardews, if they are half decent or good, they are Carr's?

 

Afraid you can't label when it suits. The way the club's run, they're all Carr's signings but appear to be on the agreement of Carr, Llambias and Pardew. I don't think players have signed who haven't been approved by the manager. This is why it's all the more mystifying how he keeps his job, as we seem so clueless/rudderless and so many of these signings have gotten worse since they arrived. There's also the issue of finding positions, it's an odd one.

 

Do you contend that Elliot was a Pardew signing? True his fingerprints aren't evident on many, but I don't really want to see him given free reign. Marveaux and Amalfitano have hardly set the world alite - they're Carr signings. He can't be expected to sign world beaters all the time, but his record is pretty damn good.

Save your laughter smileys for when we're complete dog**** next season and Pardew's still here.

 

I'd say they are all DOF signings rather than Carr or Pardew. Its just Pardew has to operate under very strict guidelines. He can't do what a normal manager would and say "right I need more experience at centre back and defensive midfield" or "I need some british players who know the league". He has to go to Carr and say "who have you got for me?" Similarly Carr will have his own very strict remit i.e. find cheap players who will have high sell on value.

I think our transfer policy is flawed personally. I don't think that policy is down to Pardew or Carr. They just have to do what they are told, I assume, by Ashley. Unless Ashley is detached from it all and the policy is dictated by Llambias, Kinnear and now Charnley. Its not like a normal club where you can say "that manager bought well".

I just find it amusing when people want to pin some signings on him but not others.

 

I only said Obertan and Elliot. I thought I read somewhere the former was a Pardew signing; the latter most certainly is.

 

Elliott is a Pardew signing. He played for him at Charlton.

Obertan - Not sure but I can believe he's a Pardew signing

 

I'd imagine Pardew would have liked some genuine competition for Krul but felt his limited budget was better spent on other areas than a reserve goalkeeper. I'd contend that the signing was more than likely down to fact that Carr was unable to find a 3rd choice reserve keeper for under 500K, and the goalkeeping coach/manager recomended he could do that job (having coached him at Charlton). Then Harper was flogged and not replaced, with Pardew told to promote Eliott and rely on Alnwick. Not quite as clear cut as you make out really. Another imposed situation.

They are all Llambias or Kinnear signings. However if you want to attach them to the manager, then you have to attach them all, not pick and choose as fit. For instance Pardew was quite happy to replace Nolan with Cabaye. He made it clear he wanted Anita and Debuchy. Its not quite as clear cut as picking and choosing. Pardew will have some input on all of them. Once Carr finds them I'm sure Pardew goes out and watches them himself. Ultimately though, its not he or Carr who decides.

 

He's rubbish so he probably is a Pardew signing.

 

I don't like Pardew, I'd like to see him get sacked BUT I have to say I heard some ridiculous comments about his management at Liverpool, we were unlucky to lose, something which I'm sure Arsenal and Everton couldn't even say this year. Also have to say this particular criticism is the worst I've heard.

 

Pardew himself said he was offered Obertan by SAF when asking his advice on how to approach an upcoming match.

To be fair to Pardew though, he wanted us to sign Lallana a few seasons ago, which would have been a great signing. MA didn't fancy that one unfortunately.

 

Wasn't it to do with the transfer fee.

 

and the fans weren't exactly overwhelmed at the prospect of getting Lallana at the time.
same with Puncheon, but look at how he's come on in the last year or so.

 

With MA everything is to do with £££ so no doubt it was, even though it was before he would have cost a fortune.

 

Pardew = ****
Therefore any signings he makes personally = More than likely as ****

 

I heard early on in his time here that Pardew wanted Lallana and Lambert but that it was actually Carr who put the brakes on any possible move for them because he didn't think they were good enough. Pardew has said that they both have to be in agreement for a signing to go ahead, so it sounds likely that Carr messed up there.

 

I think Carr doesn't like the English players