Is the Premier League ruining our Country?

After seeing England’s under 21’s crash out of the European Championships at the weekend, I was waiting for an article such as this.

Content is pretty accurate I’d say in relation to the heart of English players these days and can’t really argue with the fact that the money involved in England now is making club football preference.

A point that will continue to rumble on until our national team finds success……….so this point will rumble on for an awfully long time!

Article below:

http://sportales.com/soccer/england-ruined-by-england/

 

To answer your original question - very specifically - NO.

What is ruining this country is:

This wretched Coalition Government.
The Royal Family.
The Labour Party.
Our big tough guy act with our global armed forces

Harold Wilson/Thatcher/Bliar and Brown

Oh and of course the 2 Pauls:
Sturrock and Stapleton.

Easy innit

 

What no Toady.

 

There are a lot of thing ruining British football:

The Bosman rule.

Unrestricted importation of overseas players.

A celebrity culture which demands overnight success, fed by the 24 hour tabloid mentaility media.

Lack of proper financial disciplines to prevent clubs trying to buy overnight success - see particularly Chelsea and Manchester City FC's

Effete referreeing which prevents British players from using their traditional strength & power in the tackle and in the air while allowing diving, simulation, bodychecking, obstruction and other abominations to flourish.

And yes, a lack of patriotism amongst spoilt and overpaid British players and Premier League clubs.

So is it all to to with the PL? No, not all of it but a lot of the worst of it worldwide is seen there.

 

OK Distant fair enough, but what about Sturrock???
He has been blamed for everything else

 

What about Mr Gardener and Mr Toad Nicky?

I think the England team needs to be made up of Championship players and they would perform better i imagine. Don't bother with the England team, its always a big build up then a load crap , look at South Africa, a JOKE. Greedy prem players.
All they want is to look good, drink smoke, drugs and shag each other and their partners. Then get a super injunction, Stuff the Premier League rather not be in it.

 

Prawn sandwiches are the root of all evil...simples

 

You have an unhealthy obsession with prawns mexijan. I shudder to think why or what caused it so won't ask.

Money is ruining football in this country. The gulf between the haves and have nots is so huge it is obscene. The gulf between leagues is obscene also. You get more money to come last in the premiership than you get to share amongst all of the clubs in league one and two put together. That cannot be right. Parachute payments encourage overspending by clubs who could not survive without it. If it was taken away then clubs would have to think twice and once one or two had collapsed then the others would soon learn the lesson. There should not be a rule for only league 2 to live within it's means with a wage cap dependant on receipts. This should apply to ALL leagues and clubs. Success would then not depend on the bank balance of the owner but on football on the pitch and even out the chances of clubs at least a little bit. This does not appl only to this Country but should apply throughout the world.

Despite the fact that I would love to see the day when Argyle could ply it's trade in the top division at least once before I die, I abhore the way things are run up there. I think Blackpool stand out as a shinning example of what can be done without bankrupting the club. OK they got relegated but can hold their heads high by not giving in to the culture of overspending. People throughout the Country should stand and applaud them.

 

The problem with england is they don't always pick the best players. They only pick from certain clubs in the prem. The other home teams seem to pick players from the other leagues. It would be interesting if one of the big boys like chelsea or manc utd was relegated to see what the fa would do.

 

In some ways yes and in other ways no. Yes because it means our younger talent are not getting experience due to the superior level of overseas players . But then again no because it makes English league football the best in the world and you could also look at the argument of that the premier league means most young English talent are at the best clubs in the world which should enhance them as a player.

 

Amen to all that guys and gals.

But in a word------SKY

 

I'm not quite sure I get that argyle12345. You seem to say the young talent doesn't get a look in and that is bad and then say that they are at top clubs so that is good. I guess you mean they see and learn from the best talent around even if they don't get to play in the team generally. I am more concerned with the whole of the football set up rather than just concentrating on the one league at the top. The importation of all of the foreign players brought here by the obscene wages they can earn does little to enhance the lower clubs who traditionally have found talent and sold it on to the top clubs. This generating of income lower down helped circulate money into the bottom corners of the structure. This is far less so now with money generally coming from the Championship downwards rather than the top. By that fact alone it is less money. There is less chance of clubs being able to attain stardom also. If they do then it is generally by risking everything on the hope they will be successful. Only a very small percentage of clubs can be that each season. The parachute payments have created yoyo clubs who are in a far better position to regain premiership status than the ones who haven't been there. All in all money in football is bad not good if you want to support your local team rather than be a plastic armchair fan of Sky and the top clubs.

 

OldGoat

I don't agree with you on that one. I think the problem is quite the reverse - there is a tendency always to pick what is perceived at the time as being the "best" 11 England players rather than the best team. A classic case is the long running saga of picking Gerrard & Lampard in the same side when there are too alike to find room for both and there's been a constant trend of putting players in the side but playing them hopelessly out of position.

Having just finished Bobby Charlton's biography, I have a handy quote. Jack Charlton's career blossomed quite late and although effective at what he did, he was hardly a cultured player. When he was first picked for England, obviously feeling he wasn't up to it, he asked Alf Ramsey why he'd been chosen ahead of other players of more obviously international class. Ramsey said "I don't pick the best 11 players, I pick the best team". That's exactly what DOESN'T happen now.

 

A fundamental problem with young talented english players is their talent and ability does get recognized.

They then get gobbled up by the big clubs who are scared that someone else will beat them to their signature.

This then does not allow these young and talented players to mature in a more natural surrounding.

Ok you can argue that big clubs can farm out young players to other clubs and help their developement.

So many young players never get the chance in big clubs, who can go out and buy already matured often foreign players.

The national team will often find that younger players do not get the grounding to bring them through to that higher level, and mentally not capable of making it at the top level.

 

Technical ability is being trained out of the youngsters in favour of having an 'engine' - powerful enough to survive in the Prem.
No real academy as say Ajax, where they do not play on full size pitches until they are 14 or 15.

I think Trevor Brooking is recommending the same thing here in the UK, the problem is that here we rely on a not yet fully materialised academy in Buxton, whereas on the continent it is done at club level, and in France the have Fontainbleau (where people like Zidane etc came from).

Oh and SKY (again)

 

excuse me for invading your boards, but one thing that is ruining football particularly club football is secret off shore prospective directors who have no interest in football but merely making a fast buck or bucks following redevelopment of the surrounding ground. i am suprised the administrator has agreed to this short term deal, because once your secret irish gib based consortium have developed the site they will be off. rumour has it these developers have not even met plymouth council, and the FL cannot be happy with this secret temporary outfit.
previous directors have done their best to sink argyle, i hope none of these are in the secret 7. the only people who come out of this with any credit are the unpaid office staff, manager and what is left of your squad. i do hope mr brendt is still standing by. i can assure you, you will be made most welcome at my club shrewsbury town on 6/8/11, and i for one hope there is a whip round for argyle who must be the worst directed club this century. i do hope the FA/FL call for a full enquiry into what has gone on in the board room over the last 3 years, particulary the last 7 months. again i apologise for the invasion, but i wish argyle, the pilgrims and all the green army the very best of luck for the forthcoming season

 

Cheers It ain´t ideal we know but to be honest just the fact we are on the fixture list this season is better than it looked a few months ago. Invaders always welcome in Plymouth, except the bloody Spanish that is, pop into the Pilgrimage for a chat anytime and good luck to you guys for the up and coming season, you´ll need it on the first day we got a couple of under 14´s showing some real promise!!!!

 

A bit off-topic but I agree with Mexijan.

The property consortium will never actually own the football club as that goes straight to Peter Ridsdale. I've vowed not to comment on that as long as the club survives, which it will do only by the skin of its teeth. You'd think fans would be grateful. I am.

I'm not quite clear what's wrong with property development. It will take place within the Council's planning policy and as I understand will be an extension of the existing sports & leisure facilities in that corner of Central Park. Is that not a good thing for Plymouth?

Now if you're talking about offshore owners at Chelsea and Man City distorting the entire fabric of English football for personal aggrandizement, I'll agree with you.

 

i assume the consortium will own the stadium and ridsdale and his board will have to rent it. nothing wrong with developers but when they have developed, what will keep them at home park. this all sounds a short term resolution to get the club out of admin. pity messrs brendt and ginsters were not running the club! i suspect the FL may want to know more. anyway good luck

 

Many clubs don't own their stadiums and it does them no harm. The only way Argyle could be affected by the consortium buggering off is if the lease terms were short. I cannot think for one minute they will be. Also there has always been a stick on to the ground being there that the land will only be used for the purposes of football. If they pulled some plug on the club then the land would be their's to maintain without any revenue coming in and scope to use it for anything else. Ergo not worth their while not allowing Argyle to use it. There is no other team who could hire the ground locally so it makes sense for both sides for the agreement to be manageable and affordable.