lol, I have no intentions of putting you in a concentration camp, because I despise them, but don't let that get in the way of reasonable debate, you have shown time and time again, that you are incapable of reasonable debate. You prefer to label people. And still no proof that I am racist, come on Gendros, if you are so correct in your opinion, prove it. Or keep side stepping like the coward your sort usually are.
I havent asked you to ban him or remove the thread, as I say it shows what UKIP supporters are all about. If you want to ban me just do it, it will show you cannot give a reasoned answer.
Nigel Farage, who previously railed against "rich people and successful companies" not paying their fair share, was reported to have funneled earnings into a company which meant he pays 20% corporation tax on profits of £45,000, rather than 40% income tax. According to the Mail Online, Farage set up a company, Thorn In The Side Ltd, to manage earnings he makes from media appearances and giving speeches. The newspaper calculates the arrangement saved him £11,097.93 last year. Two faced Farage again!
The UK Independence Party has surged to a record high in the opinion polls under its brash leader Nigel Farage. But a Sunday Mirror investigation today reveals a sickening catalogue of racist and homophobic views held by some of its biggest supporters. They use the party’s official online “members *forum” to *express extremist and offensive opinions on issues ranging from gay marriage to bogus links between *homosexuals and ******philia. Their outbursts are exposed as the party gears up against both the Tories and Labour in European elections, with its flagship policy that Britain should pull out of the EU. On the forum, senior UKIP member Dr Julia Gasper branded gay rights a “lunatic’s charter” and claimed some homosexuals prefer sex with animals. She added: “As for the links between homosexuality and *****philia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the *subject.” The former parliamentary candidate and UKIP branch chairman in Oxford now faces the sack over her comments. Tackled about her remarks yesterday, she said: “I’m not going to talk about them. It’s none of your business.” Lecturer Dr Gasper is just one of many UKIP members who use the forum to vent their controversial views. A concerned party insider passed on a selection of the shocking outbursts to the Sunday Mirror. UKIP member Jan Zolyniak posted: “The evidence is quite clear that the percentage of homosexuals who molest children is very high and cannot be dismissed.” Approached outside his bungalow in Surrey yesterday, Mr Zolyniak claimed his comments were for “research purposes”. He said: “I put those comments up on the website to get responses.” Philip CoburnU.K.I.P. party member Jan Zolyniak at home in West London Horrific: UKIP member Jan Zolyniak linked homosexuality and child abuse Another member, Douglas Denny from the Bognor Regis branch in West Sussex, used the forum to attack gay sex as “disgusting”. He wrote: “What irritates me is they (sic) way they and their leftie, neo-Commie followers seem to want to force the rest of us to consider them as normal. “I just wish they would keep their *homosexual nature and practices to *themselves and stop trying to ram it down my throat telling me they are ‘normal’ when they are not.” Yesterday Denny said: “Private forums and private posts should stay private. I have no further comment to make and don’t wish to discuss it with a newspaper.” Another member complained about the impact of immigration on the NHS, writing: “I am informed by past media that Black Caribbean and not Black African have a higher instance of schizophrenia. “I wonder if this is due to inbreeding on these small islands in slave times or is it due to *smoking grass.” David Cameron has branded UKIP members as “fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists”. Only last week he called them “pretty odd people”. But UKIP seized a record 16 per cent share in one recent opinion poll and leader Nigel Farage now wants to join the PM, Labour’s Ed Miliband and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg in TV *debates before the next election. However, our revelations will be a blow to the party’s declaration that it doesn’t tolerate racists or bigots. Last night Labour called on Mr Farage to kick out members guilty of abusive remarks. Vice-chairman Michael Dugher said: “There is absolutely no place for this kind of nasty racism and appalling homophobia in British politics. UKIP’s leadership should condemn this in the strongest terms.” Mr Farage said his party did not tolerate racism, but it was against the Government’s plans to allow gay marriage. He said complaints about abusive remarks would be investigated. But party chiefs were clearly aware of the problem last week when UKIP General Secretary Jonathan Arnott banned a discussion on the site on gay issues. He wrote of his fears that someone “is going to screenshoot comments and send them to a newspaper”. In the last week, two UKIP members have been forced out of the party for expressing support for gay marriage. Olly Neville, leader of the party’s youth wing, was stripped of his post for *supporting gay *marriage in an interview on BBC Radio 4. Richard Lowe, prospective parliamentary candidate for Chester, says he was also forced to resign over the issue. UKIP was founded in 1993 with a primary objective of withdrawing the UK from the EU. It struggled initially but following the 2009 elections, the party has 12 of the 73 UK seats in the European Parliament. It also has three members in the House Of Lords. Although UKIP has not yet won a seat in the House of Commons, opinion polls place it above the Lib Dems and they are hopeful of a breakthrough in the 2015 General Election
UKIP is a passing faze who is enjoying some popularity at the moment but when the serious voting takes place people will abandon their protest vote and vote as they usually do and because the majority of people don't vote then it will end up as it always does a two horse race with every other party including mine a wasted vote. I would love to see voting made compulsory just to make sure that whoever wins will be the will of the majority of the people of the UK. As it stands now all the minor parties are nothing more than a protest vote...We need to reform to a more fairer system and for that we first have to make voting compulsory...
Views on the less able Jack Biggs alleged that he had been banned from running as a candidate because of his disability and presented significant evidence in support. Later, high-ranking member Alexandra Swann sided with a Ukip councillor who said it was dangerous to allow those who do not work to vote. Political Scrapbook reported her as saying that “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they don’t contribute — is dangerous”. This, presumably, would include those unable to contribute because of disability. Finally, the apotheosis (and demise of Godwin’s law, forever hence) came when a UKIP candidate aired his repugnant views about compulsory abortion of all disabled babies. This is what UKIP think of the disabled Swan.
Ukip could potentially be the best thing to happen to British politics in a hundred years. The two party system is flawed beyond belief and the lib dems have failed to shake things up by grabbing at the tails of those above them. A fourth party entering the mix and being taken seriously would force the current parties to address real issues and actually have an opinion. People are disinterested in politics because all the key players look like they are the same person, they all peddle the same nonsense with small differences. Ukip gaining popularity could change the way parties conduct themselves and give the country more of an actual choice on policies. So regardless of there policies I think ukip are a great thing for our country. On a personal level I take huge issue with the eu and the way it is structured, think immigration creates small problems that the main parties ignore (key word small) and believe nuclear power is the way forward. The bulk of ukip policies seem based on common sense which is funny considering the nut job image they have managed to get themselves. I'll be voting ukip and actively encourage people I know to do the same. I think there is a growing amount of support for the party in young people and a genuine opportunity to change the country.
No. That is what a few idiots may think. All parties have some ridiculous members who say stupid things or hold stupid views. It'd be a mistake to then assume all ukip members and supporters hold that view.
Swanselona I tried using reasoned debate with him few months back, realised it was hopeless. He's too set in his ways to even understand the satire in my comments. He wants to label people who support UKIP as racists and far right bigots then it's just far easier (and fun) to play along.
'So regardless of there policies i think ukip are a great thing for our country'. You just cannot make it up!
I agree with all of this, good post. Modern nuclear power stations are incredibly safe. Build 10 of them in the UK. Job done. No more pandering to oil rich, gas rich countries any more.
What policies do UKIP have to be a force or be a threat to the two main parties. I cant see anything other than keep Britain British and kick out foreigners How does that work when there are millions of ex pats in other countries working and living, We are a multi cultural country and always have been and we benefit from it a great deal. ...They are a racist party with racist views and there is no way they will come close to the main parties in a million years...What about the real issues in politics, where are the policies on them. They have none and are a joke party a bit like the raving lunatic party was and thousands voted for them but in reality they were insignificant at the end of the day and so will UKIP be when the real voting takes place..
Completely agree. Not to mention it would put an end to this wind farm nonsense that basically doesn't create enough energy to be worth while, ruins beautiful views and makes land owners (many of them politicians) very rich for having them on there land.
If that's all you see you obviously haven't taken much time to do any sort of real research on the party. There is nothing about kicking out foreigners or anything remotely racist. There is a focus on changing the way immigration works in this country. There are clearly issues surrounding immigration (however small) and it could be run in a far better way. That doesn't mean closing the doors or sending people home, it means targeting the best types of immigration to best help our country. Not just having an open border with the eu. There is nothing racist about discussing immigration and it's that viewpoint which has helped ukip gain popularity. You can't just shout peoples worries down as racist and try and brush it under the carpet. And if people continue to act like that then ukip will continue to grow in popularity.
And at the lat general elections they got more than a million votes, with the 3 main parties at 5-8million. Considering they are now far more popular id say they will be anything but an insignificance in the next general election, particularly if the European elections give them a resounding victory. Edit: numbers taken from memory, every possibility one of the main parties superseded the numbers above.
mmmmmm...then we can be reliant on Uranium rich countries and only pander a bit less to the oil-rich, gas-rich countries for our other energy needs....oh, and our grandkids can sort out the clean up. I am afraid energy needs are a really complex thing that do not have a one-horse solution.
