Man City to face £50m fine and squad restrictions for FFP breech

As we speak a contingent of world class lawyers will be getting flown in....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27290532

Manchester City and Paris St-Germain are facing fines in the region of €60m (£50m), restrictions on their Champions League squad size and a wage limit for failing Uefa financial fair play rules.
BBC Sport has learned the two - among nine clubs under examination by Uefa for failing the governing body's "break even" test - face similar penalties.
It is believed a Champions League squad reduction could see the clubs restricted to using anywhere between 18 and 21 players in Uefa's premier competition. A normal squad size is 25.

Uefa made its first FFP ruling based on club accounts from the past two seasons - 2011-12 and 2012-13.

Under this monitoring period, total losses of €45m (£37m) are permitted as long as clubs have owners who can cover such amounts.

A wage cap could also be introduced on the errant clubs to ensure there is no rise on this season's squad wage bill for the Champions League.
It is thought clubs have until Friday to agree a "settlement" with Uefa.

Failure to agree a deal would see a club referred to an adjudicatory panel in June where a non-negotiable penalty would be applied.
At that stage clubs could then seek a final appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland.
Under Uefa's FFP rules, clubs can lose no more than €45m (£37m) over the previous two seasons.

City posted combined losses of almost £149m for the past two seasons - £97m in 2012 and £51.6m in 2013.
Arsenal and Manchester United were in the black for the last two seasons, so they have nothing to fear from Uefa's financial fair play scheme.
Chelsea made a £49.4m loss last year but registered a £1.4m profit in 2012 so will comply with the new regulations.

Liverpool, who have lost £90m over the last two years but have not played in Europe this season, will not have to pass the FFP rules until next autumn.
Uefa introduced FFP because it fears many clubs are risking their futures by spending beyond their means, while Uefa president Michel Platini also believes the big spending of some clubs is ruining the game.

 

Fining Man City £50m will have no affect whatsoever. Mclaren were fined £100m a few years back over.

It's like fining me £1

City need to be docked points, banned from European competition etc etc for it to have any impact on them where it hurts them badly.

They'll still be out spunking tens of millions of pounds on players this summer and flogging off their previous acquisitions for a quarter of what they paid for them.

City's owners must be so envious of Ashley's shrewd silky business skills !

 

Less toothless than I'd expected.

I wonder if the £50m fine is taken into account in determining the club's losses for this year ?

If so you could get a really vicious circle happening. The club is fined because it has lost too much money in preceding seasons, leading to a loss this season, leading to a find next season due ot the size of the loss this season, etc

 

You're are correct but they have to pay for their jollies to Brazil somehow

 

Pleasantly surprised myself ..However the Uefa appeals system is no doubt revved up and raring to go at reducing this to.. a severe telling off, and no pocket money for a day.

 

FFP sucks....
Designed to retain the status quo with the same clubs in CL year after year.
Unless you spend money, how else to you get to the top of the tree, so it makes it difficult for clubs like Man City, PSG to come through and make there mark and thus stifling competition.

Under FFP why would anyone be interested in buying out Ashley, as our turnover is nowhere near that required to compete at the top, as in theory they couldn't spend much more than what was coming in or you get fined etc.

That's my opinion anyway...

 

Chuck them out of Europe for 3 years, impose a transfer embargo for 3 years, fine them 50 million and order them to play a season behind closed doors. Make an example.

 

The theory was that it was supposed to prevent teams buying the league. A nice idea but it overlooks the fact that if you'd already bought the league the year before FFP came into effect, you were allowed to keep it.

 

Fining super rich clubs will have no deterent at all and all it does is line EUFA coffers, which I think is the whole idea anyway.
Clubs should be barred from European competition for at least 2 seasons in order for them to put their house in order. Anything less will mean clubs like Man C and PSG will continue to flaunt the rules.

 

As you say a nice idea, but the reality is if your not one of the richer clubs with a higher than average turnover, it will be very difficult to break into the elite group now.
If Ashley was to actually sell up, any potential benefactor couldn't go out and spend, spend, spend otherwise they would be in breach of FFP rules and thus making the club subject to cries of fine them, ban them etc.

I honestly believe all FFP has achieved is taking the dream away for many clubs, ours included, making them no more than 'also runs' for the foreseeable future.
The 'haves' already have it, and the 'have-nots' will find it very difficult in competing going forward.

 

Apparently it does, which is why the fine is spread over 3 years.

 

Actually, you could still do it but you'd have to be a bit clever about it.

Because Liverpool isn't currently in Europe it doesn't need to comply until next year. You could spend as much as you like assembling a squad on your way up and then become compliant when you get there.

Or you could proceed on the basis that it will never be enforced anyway.

 

After reading this, fine them, dock them points whatever.
Its getting completely out of hand if this was to happen.


http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...re-164m-Lionel-Messi-in-world-record-transfer

MANCHESTER CITY are ready to launch a world-record bid for Barcelona star Lionel Messi.

Reports in Spain claim Manuel Pellegrini's side have prepared an eye-watering £164million offer as they look to bring one of the planet's best players to the Etihad.

City owner Sheikh Mansour has been keeping tabs on Messi since taking control of the Sky Blues in 2008, and feels the time is right to go after a player some believe to be the greatest of all time.

The four-time Ballon d'Or winner has been in good form for the Catalan giants this season, scoring 40 times in 43 games under Gerardo 'Tata' Martino.

However the Argentinian international has suffered a number of injury setbacks, and has occasionally failed to produce his best in Barcelona's poor La Liga and Champions League campaigns.

Messi has struggled to reach the same heights that saw him score 73 goals two seasons ago, and many pundits believe he is stalling on a new contract in the hope that a move to one of Europe's emerging giants materialises.

Oil-rich Paris St-Germain have also been linked with the talismanic forward, but City believe their former Barcelona duo Txiki Beguiristain and Ferran Soriano can convince Messi to link up with fellow countryman Sergio Aguero and set the Premier League alight.

Barcelona could be tempted to cash in as they attempt to rebuild their ageing squad and replace veterans including Carlos Puyol and Victor Valdes.

Giving the green light would also allow Brazilian golden-boy Neymar to take centre-stage after failing to impress since joining from Santos for £50million last summer.

 

Methinks you don't like Man City.

 

It may not deter them in the short term, they'll happily suck the 50m fine if they win the league. Keep on fining them 50m though, they'll soon get cheesed off.

 

The whole thing is a perverse way of making money for the powers at be.

FFP was created to prevent clubs over-reaching themselves and going into administration/liquidation.

Manchester City have NO DEBT and are in NO DANGER of getting into debt.

They have invested over £200m in their academy, stadium, surrounding area and are basically being fined for their generosity.

Think about it, a club being fined for over-spending?

The world is not, never has been, and never will be a level playing field when it comes to finance.

I applauded the footballing authorities when the initial measures were announced, but they have now gone the other way.

It's like speed cameras - put in place as a safety measure but now used to make money as their primary directive

 

Money is nothing to them they should be docked a high amount of points
And a transfer embargo put in place.

 

That would be better.

 

FFP was primarily brought in to prevent clubs buying the league, hence the name. Preventing clubs going broke was an additional purpose.

Manchester City are not being fined for their generosity but for their greed.

 

Wenger has it right. The only way to punish the top clubs is bans from European competition. The problem of course comes when you get a club like QPR who get nowhere Europe but spend irresponsibly.

Mind I wish someone wouldn spend irresponsibly their own money on us.