Their current main policies that they are using, is to do with Europe and the borders, which is what I was referring too, but in regards to all their policies, no I don't agree with them all, hence why I said they are not the long term answer, but they are something that is needed to stir the pot. In regards to the policies you mentioned: NHS - Is currently a shambles, I know this as I have been ill for the past 6 years waiting on constant waiting lists to be seen by the NHS, to try and figure out what is wrong with me, the latest episode, was a very nice 10 month wait to see an allergy specialist, 10 months wait for a 5 minute appointment and to be quickly shown the door as he is so over worked that he hasn't got more time to spend with his patients. That's not healthcare. FORCES - As someone who is pro armed forces, after all I did attempt to serve, (illness im suffering with now got me discharged) so yes I very much agree we need to spend on our forces after the constant cuts it has had to endure. So yes, I am more than happy for them to sort our forces out, we have 1 carrier ffs. What fool decided that one. Ships break down, yet we had no backup. And as someone who wants us out of the EU, I don't want us having to rely on the French, or whatever to sustain our air combat ability. People go on about there is no current threat, or that we don't need a forces, they need to come back to reality. TAX RATE - Not one I am too keen on, but like I said, I don't agree with them all INCAPACITY BENEFIT - Is pretty dead anyway isn't it, you can't apply to be put on incapacity benefit now can you? Aren't new claims now put on Employment and Support Allowance, thats what I am on due to being unable to work. Incapacity Benefit is just an old system that some people are still on due to being accepted on it in the past (my Aunt being one of them) I know there is a difference between Sikhs Hindu's, I lived in London as a child, went to school in mixed community schools, my two best friends were Vishal (Hindu) and Indepal (Sihk) So no I do not class them all as the same, but, there are the minority (see the word minority) that cause problems, and because of the PC world we live in, anyone say anything against it, and we are labelled racist. Such as the whole Subway issue. Say anything bad about them getting rid of pork to serve halal meat only, and you get labelled a racist. Yet the issue is not allowing both meats to be served. It's more racist to STOP serving pork, than it is to continue serving it. But nothing gets said about that. Why because the PC brigade don't like to protect our own way of life, because they are too scared to be labelled racist, they just go around labelling everything racist instead. How can Mo Farah represent Britain, in regards to what he said, is a somewhat genuine question. I doubt that had anything to do with his colour, and more to do with where he was born, its those with the attitude like yourself which is the more racist, as your bringing his colour into it. Mo Farah was born in Mogadishu in Somalia. The issue is the UKIP candidate described Mo Farah as African, now I don't know about you, but last time I checked, Somalia was in ****ing Africa. There is why the question gets raised. So what's that you said about people being blinkered? Maybe you should stop being blinkered yourself first. What next, can I not be described as welsh or British, incase some stupid **** decides they are being racist instead of saying the truth. Answer me something Gendros, Is Mo Farah African? Is Mo Farah a Somalian? Am I a European? Am I Welsh? What about all the people that have questioned Kevin Peiterson's role in representing the English Cricket team, you gonna label all them racist too? Or because KP is white, its ok? The questions get asked, not because of colour, but because of where they were born. Its people who think it is about colour that are the true racists. You then have the whole Lenny Henry debacle. Yes what the UKIP candidate said was wrong, well more how he said it I guess. I get the point he was trying to make, its just all been blown out of proportion by the PC brigade. Lenny Henry was on about how ethnic minorities were under-represented on British TV. Well ethnic minorities, are a minority in the country in the first place. Britain is a predominantly white country. Thats not racist, its fact. What about the candidates statement is false? If Lenny Henry wants to see more ethnic minorities on TV, he can do so by going to places where they are the majority, I have no problems with any race being on our TV's, but why is nothing said about Lenny Henry focusing on Africans and Asians? That's more racist that what the candidate said, but because he is not white, they won't say anything. Do you know of any white people who are complaining that we are a minority on Asian TV, or African TV? Well on British TV, in a country that is predominantly white, its normal to have a majority of white people on TV. The only racist in all that is Henry for bringing race into it.
yes, something needs to change with the NHS, its sleepwalking into an era of ever lowering standards, obviously an insurance based system is needed but many people in this country have grown up on free healthcare, and regard it as a human right, regardless of whether they never pay into the system. a lack of understanding that its either on the extreme left like the NHS or on the extreme right like the US style free market is another. as for things like disability benefits, the current government are doing everything in their power to reduce the quality of life of those that can't work, it can't really get much worse for them in reality. finally, with immigration, you reap what you sow, as this thread shows, there's quite a significant amount of people in the UK who scream racism when the word immigration is mentioned, thats one of the reasons no major party is willing to address the issue properly as they are well aware that they will be demonised. it really is common sense that we should only accept people in that fill a role that can't be filled by a UK citizen.
Simplistic comment from me. I've lived and worked in two countries abroad and I have good friends that I regularly visit in a number of others. The overriding sentiment that I and my friends experienced was, adapt to the culture and laws of the country that has allowed you in, or f**k off back to your own. Seems fair enough to me.
Ivor I agree with this totally and this always seems to be the way in other countries. However, people who take that view in our country and actually come out and say it are looked at as racists by the PC gang.
Being in Europe is not a bed of roses but its far better for us to be in it than out of it. Years ago maybe when we were a major supplier of industry all around the world in steel,coal, copper, gold and a few others we could survive as an independent country but now we have nothing much major to produce and sell then we need to be in Europe. Should we pull out then the standard of living will drop even further than what it is already and that is what will happen to scotland should they win their independence from the uk. Its up to the prim-minister of the day and our Mep's to fight for a better deal in Europe for us rather than pull out and into certain meltdown because we cant support ourselves. David Cameron is only offering a referendum and playing on the fact because the other major parties wont give one to try and get more votes but even he dont want to pull out of Europe because he knows what it will cost the country.
Swanselona, people are people wherever they are from, whatever god they belive in. Mo Farah is British, he was born in Somalia what is so hard for you to understand?, he is a perfect role model for our country and for our children, he is hard working and successful, what is your point? You are European, you live in Europe as A British citizen, you can call yourself British, Welsh, Scots or Irish or English depending where you happen to lay your hat, what is your point? Incapacity benefit is not pretty dead anyway, ask the many disabled people who have had their benefits slashed by this tory govt. Tis would be furthered by Farage. What about the rights of trade unionists who have secured better pay and conditios for millions of workers, their rights are to be curtailed under Farage. You make excuses for the guy who said Lenny Henry should go home, he is from Birmingham! Even the ultra right Farage thought that was excessive and sacked him, what does that say about you? The most you can say about a tax policy that would take millions for the the low paid and put the cash in the hands of the rich is,'Im not keen', what a joke. So people questioned Pieterson's status, they were from the party you support! 70 years ago there was no NHS, where do you think you would be now? Farage and his ilke want to destroy it. I also served in the Forces but I want to see a smaller more professional body who do not go policing around the world like in Afganistan as a tool for the govt. I would rather the extra money go to the hero's who have served and been injured than to persue some govt adgenda. What is this 'our way of life?', I am in the fortunate position to live as I want, be educated , be given health care and have the security of a benefits system. I dont know where you live but I live in the best country in the world. The far right like you deliberately hide behind the Muslim card with you racist agenda's so you cannot be prosecuted. 'Patriot: is the person who can shout the loudest without knowing what he is shouting about', Mark Twain. 'You are not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality, wrong is wrong no matter who says it'. Malcom X
Either prove that somebody on here is a racist or has a racist agenda or retract that comment immediately. Such accusations won't be tolerated.
Valley you have an extremely blinkered view for a teacher, just glad you have not had your clutches on my kids.
Im not retracting Valley boy so ban away, you have wanted to do it for a while. Racism is racism and I will speak out against it everywhere and also fight against it.
Please state where there have been racist remarks/comments here and they'll be dealt with, otherwise stop bleating.
Gendrosjack is right, People today are afraid to confront people of any race for fear as being labeled a racist. The NHS would not survive without foreign immigrants, The hospitals are awash with foreign doctors and nurses because we cant find enough British personnel to fill these jobs. We are a multicultural country and should be able to get along with each other. We cant keep on blaming Islamic people all the time for the way the country is. Blame the governments over the years for the lack of foreign input control and the soft touch approach to getting benefits.
Plus one. He should be banned for labelling you racist, he preaches about you hiding behind a Muslim card but showed the whole board he actively uses the racist card. In fact he uses the racist card against people who want to vote their own way, which is an extremist view tbh and terribly anti-democratic. Valley you have a democratic right to vote for who you wish, and people like gendros are sick should move to a one party nation!
Maybe Gendros should move to North Korea, I'm sure his culture and rights will be allowed to be expressed freely. Maybe if he possessed the ability to read he'd have noticed that I have said I will never vote UKIP
