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Will Pardew ACTUALLY be sacked?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Welshie, Apr 28, 2014.

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  1. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    I actually detest that prick now. Someone is going to run on to the pitch and clock him one on Saturday. I have a feeling it will happen.
     
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  2. Enn-You-Eff-See

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    It's actually a joke and once again we are a laughing stock, how can a manager perform and act so badly yet have one of the safest jobs in the business.:undecided:
     
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  3. Enn-You-Eff-See

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    I fear a real hammering against Liverpool too...
     
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  4. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    That is a given mate, Liverpool will be far more ruthless than Arsenal were tonight. It will be lambs to the slaughter . Hopefully, if we lose to Cardiff then maybe it might the end for him here but we all know it won't happen.
     
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  5. Heed

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    Yes, I do actually believe he will be relieved of his duties as Manager before the end of May 2014.
    I don't think it matters a jot where we finish in the league, be it 9th, 10th or 11th, I just think he will be replaced.

    My only reasoning for this mad lapse in thought, is that it's fast becoming too much of a gamble for Ashley to retain him.
    Ashley likes certainty in business matters, and Pardew can no longer provide him the assurance that he needs.
     
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  6. Lord Jonjomort

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    I'm with you now. It won't happen this week or even before Liverpool, absolutely no point, but he'll be sacked in an Allardyce fashion.

    He stands now with a squad who don't want to play for him. The costs for sorting this lot out are mounting for Ashley, if he sticks with Pardew. His goose is well and truly cooked.
     
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  7. cronemeister

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    If I performed as badly and as consistently in my job as this clown has I would have been sacked weeks ago.

    That's not even taking into account the headbutting incident either.

    My mate was slagging him off last season, and rightly so but we had the distraction of europe and a small squad lacking quality so I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt this season to see how it compared to the season we finished 5th.

    For whatever reason something has happened and it can't just simply be the fact that Cabaye was sold and never replaced but I'm struggling to see another trigger for our woeful second half to the season.

    Whatever excuse you chuck at it, whether it be small squad, **** squad, injuries etc etc etc, it all comes down to one person...Alan Pardew.

    If he ain't getting support from above then if he was any kind of man with the slightest amount of self resepct he would walk out, people would have a hell of a lot more respect for him for it (if that's possible), unless he really is that ****ing thick and can't see that the longer he stays and under-performs the more obvious it becomes that he is just Ashley's Nodding Arse Puppet.
     
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  8. steveharris

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    Sooner or later, everyone will get sacked! And that's just the way it is!
     
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  9. Agent Bruce

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    Pardew will be looking over his shoulder quite a lot after hearing some of the things the fans are saying about him. He wont be able to relax.
     
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  10. Obi Wan

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    Especially if you are behind him.
     
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  11. Obi Wan

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    Not after Pards has studied Chelsea's win at Anfield. He will learn from Mourinho's tactical masterclass and will adapt the training to ensure the players are fully prepared to execute the master plan. He is a genius.
     
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  12. Bozz

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    Pardon my ignorance but aren't you guys being a tad harsh (I admit I don't fully know the goings on at Newcastle) but Pardew is a man who has had to put up with Joe Kinnear for half a season second guessing his every move, You had a 100% record in November and you've had wins against Chelsea, Stoke, Man Utd, Tottenham and you demolished Hull away.

    Admittedly results haven't been good recently but will change be the answer? Look at Spurs, West Brom & Sunderland.

    Pardew is on a long contract and is obviously mates with Mike Ashley, surely it would make sense to support him to the end of the season and look to performances next season before calling for his head?
     
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  13. Obi Wan

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    Actually, you've just made me think. The successful half season was WITH Kinnear and the poor form WITHOUT him. Maybe MA booted the wrong one? <whistle>
     
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  14. Bozz

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    ... Actually.... that is a good point
     
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  15. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    We've lost 20 games under Pardew by 3 (THREE) or more goals. We've lost our last 3 (THREE) games against our biggest rivals, two of which were at home, both of these we lost by 3 (THREE) goals to nil. We have lost 14 of our last 19 games. I raise your 1-0 away victory to Spurs where Tim Krul had the game of his life, I raise it defeats against Spurs (h) 4-0, Man Utd (h) 4-0, Swansea (h) 2-1, Cardiff (h) 2-1, Liverpool (h) 6-0, Brighton (a) x2, Sunderland (h) 3-0, Sundrland (h) 3-0, Hull (h) 3-2, Swansea (a) 3-0, Southampton (a) 4-0, Reading (h) 2-1, Everton (h) 3-0, Wigan (a) 2-1, Arsenal (a) 7-3.

    All of those are all within the last 18 months, we either face a half decent team and get battered or face a poor team and lose by the odd goal. Add to that, the fact that we have never, yes that's right not even once, been losing at H/T to turn it around and win a game under Pardew (he's been here four years) and what does that say about his ability to influence a game. I've only know him be able to influence a game once, and that was last week against Swansea when he would have stopped them scoring the winner if we was on the touch line and not in the stand! <doh>

    He's head butted a player, he called Pelligrini "an old c*nt". We beat Chelsea at home but it wasn't for the fans, for the players or even Pardew himself, it was for good ol' Mike. So far he's blamed defeats on mid-week European games, Hatem Ben Arfa, injuries, tiredness, Hatem Ben Arfa, lack of preperation time, referees, Hatem Ben Arfa, the FANS, his touch line ban (you know, the one he got for nutting a player), Hatem Ben Arfa and the MEDIA!

    He says " we was" instead of "we were". Which quite frankly is reason enough to sack him on it's own.

    When we're trailing in a game he's changed LB for LB more than he has a striker or midfielder for a defender.

    He signed Obertan, Grabriel F*CKING Obertan.

    We've scored from one corner in the last 3 and a half years, just one. We've conceded from about 30 during that same period.

    We've won one derby in 7 attempts under Pardew. Our derby games are agaisnt Sunderland, not Barcelona, not Real Madrid, not Bayern Munich but Sunderland. You know, that team that regularly finishes in the bottom 6, that team that is always in the bottom 6 yet we've managed to win once in seven games against them.

    He's just a poor manager, he's had more than enough time to mould his own team and style but he built one game plan around a player that everyone (barring Joe Kinnear) knew was going to leave.

    His time is UP!
     
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  16. Welshie

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    Nailed it
     
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  17. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    On the back of this was anyone else annyoed at how poor Neville and Carragher's anyalysis/view of our season and supporters was? One of them said we'd rather lose 7-3 and see some goals which was just a joke. Not once did they point out the 13 defeats in 18 games (prior to last ngiht's result), our constant defeats by three or more goals or Pardew's record in the cups.

    Usually both are very good with their analysis etc but last night it was like thet couldn't be bothered to talk about our problems in detail and instead just went on to paint a picture of unrealistic expectations of the fans.
     
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  18. Albert's Chip Shop

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    **** me you hit the nail right on the head there mate. That's going on my wall for prosterity.

    EDIT- it's too long... damm.
     
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  19. Albert's Chip Shop

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    That pair of has beens were clearly out to have a dig at us.
    They know **** all about our aspirations or expectations yet get wheeled out like a pair of hannibal lecters to try to add bite to the analysis.
    I've seen more insightful views of our team from Mackem doleites off their tits on methodone and blue pop FFS.
    The media love in with the big 4 (now 5) is starting to really do my head in.
     
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  20. Lord Jonjomort

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    Can I suggest that there has to be more than meets the eye? I mean, there MUST be. Was bad enough last season, but the Kinnear 'taunting', the "this one's for Mike", the "I look at this JOB as MY long term opportunity", etc. - never in the history of the Premier League has a manager survived such a barrage of vitriol, such abysmal results. This incredible downturn in form happened last year as well, it's not a one off, although at least last year there was the odd smattering of effort - this year, no-one seems interested. He sticks to the same eleven players, regardless, with the only changes occurring at left back. His persistence with the soon-to-be-free Gosling and soon-to-be-retired Shola are nothing short of staggering, what is in his thinking?

    There has to be something more here, and again I am trying to 'decipher' the issue of his debt. Let's try and look at it as a billionaire, who couldn't give a fck what anyone thinks and just intends to keep his advertising in the Premier League. So I have my advertising, and the guy in charge has this team in 9th, completely safe from relegation. Huge tick in the box, not sacking the bloke. 50,000 people and a few more online don't seem to like him, but then it's Newcastle and there's not really either much money nor many sales of my "sporting goods". Are my sales numbers affected? No. The consensus of pundits, of the general media, is one of sympathy towards the manager. Is there any adverse impact on my brand? Nope.

    Moving on to the manager - do I, personally, dislike him? No, he's one of my few mates in football, I trust him to be trying. He owes me money, and I need him under my thumb to repay what he owes. That's part of the contract, he pays when he's employed, so I take x% of his salary whilst he's under my ownership. I may look at retaining Pardew as a Football Director, and bring in someone just as cheap to do the coaching as it might cost me a packet to replace players.
     
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