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  1. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    I use seedpeer and it's pretty good.
     
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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    My bandspeed is 0.7 - 0.8 mbps (= 700-800kbps)! I often lose games I'm watching. Loads of buffering. Downloads take forever...

    On a contrasting note, did anyone see that TalkTalk/Virgin and another are cabling York for 1gbps?
     
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  3. PLT

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    I haven't seen that Stan, you got a link? They have those sorts of speeds in South Korea and parts of America but it's unheard of in the UK. I find it hard to believe that TalkTalk can provide anything that BT aren't providing because the network is BT's. Virgin are slightly different because they fit their own fibre stuff and theirs is better than the Fibre-to-the-Cabinet used by many but not as good as full fibre to the home. It's somewhere in between the two and they can offer 120Mbps I believe.

    1Gbps would only be achievable on full FTTH as far as I'm aware and even with that fitted I doubt they'd make 1Gbps available because the back-end of the network would need massive bandwidth to cope with it.
     
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  4. PLT

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    Also, 0.7-0.8Mbps as you probably know is **** all. BT's network has this problem and to be fair to them, it's because they have an enormous area to cover and much of it is rural areas such as yours. This is officially a 'not-spot' which the term for an area where less than 2Mbps is the norm. KC's network has no not-spots but of course it is a much smaller area to cover than BT's.
     
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  5. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Yep - copper to the house from cabinet (half a mile away); copper to cabinet from sub-exchange in next village (2.5 miles further); and copper into the sub- from town exchange (approx. 5 miles). Questioned my local MP, who replied that we are 'in the plans', but that the answer may not be cable.
     
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  6. PLT

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    That's the thing, the more copper the slower the speeds. In Hull and the surrounding area those street cabinets are connected to the exchanges with fibre, so it's only the last leg that's copper (even though it's not a fibre service as such) and people out in places like Little Weighton etc can still get very good speeds of around 16Mbps. But again it comes back to the size of the area. Covering Hull and EY with Fibre is a lot easier than the UK.
     
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  7. PLT

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    Also do you have a link for that 1Gbps thing Stan?
     
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  8. steverico

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    Not true here in Thorngumbald we have fibre into the house, I got a flyer advertising as such but when they tried to connect me up I stopped the engineer and got on to KC after which they had a meeting and decided to cable the full village as it had been wired to KC underground a few years ago.

    We only got fibre early because the gyppos nicked the copper cable from Hedon Bypass, so that was good, KC replaced in in 3 days, BT took 5 weeks to replace the stolen cable near Tickton around the same time.

    That's why we get massive speeds over and above the advertised limits, in the year I have had it, it has never gone down and I have never had speed issues, I don't buy films usually but I connected my mac to the router and downloaded a HD movie through iTunes in about 5 minutes.

    That's why BT can't compete round here because they will not run fibre into the house only to the street cabinet.

    Anyway I've had BT and who wants to talk to an Indian reading fault finding off a computer
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    BT must be doing fibre to the home round here, as with virgin. I live on a new estate, 8 houses down, around the corner, they all have fibre but my street isn't finished yet (fair few houses still being built) and we can't get fibre yet. I can only assume that's because BT/Virgin are waiting for all the houses to be finished before bothering to dig up the road and ring the cables in. If it was ont fibre to the exchange and copper wire in to the house then we'd already be able to get it wouldn't we.
     
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  10. PLT

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    I'm not sure which bit you're saying is not true?

    It's not fibre to the exchange it's fibre to the cabinet. So there's a cabinet in the street and it's copper from there.

    BT do fit FTTH under some circumstances but the connection fee for it is something near £3k. Seriously. Virgin fit their own fibre outside of BTs network and they use a weird hybrid technology that gets good speeds, but not as good as FTTH.
     
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  11. PLT

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    Steverico - just realised what you're on about. You've misunderstood me. I was saying that KCs non-fibre customers still have a large part of the connection as fibre, because all of the exchanges and cabinets are connected to one another by fibre.

    As you rightly say, most of their fibre is fibre to the home <ok>
     
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    I live in one of these 'not spot' areas, and up until a few weeks ago I was suffering dl speeds of between 0.09 and 0.18mbps with BT, I complained and was eventually told that I could come out of my 18 month contract without any cancellation penalty as their minimum standard supply level is .50mbps! The catch was that I had two weeks in which to decide whether I wanted to come out of my contract, but that would have left me with no broadband at all as KC were not due to install fibre in my area until a couple of months later, so reluctantly I stayed with them which has now cost me £154 in cancellation penalty as I've now changed to unlimited Lightstream.

    I'm not getting 100mbps from KC but what I am getting is a zillion times better than the garbage provided by BT, and it's easily fast enough to do everything that I need to, here's my speedtest results http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3448210278
     
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    I'm not a Techno as I said earlier in this thread and I haven't a clue what package i'm getting from KC because at the minute our landlord pays for it. I have trouble streaming football sometimes but tv programmes aren't too bad.
    I just ran the test 3 times and this was about the average http://www.speedtest.net/?a=1 Is this any good? I live in the Old Town if that makes a difference.
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

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    Fibre to the cabinet was what I meant PLT. The cabinet here definitely had fibre.
     
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  15. look_back_in_amber

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    That link doesn't give your result pal. After running the speedtest you need to click on 'share this result', then click on 'copy', then paste that url into your post
     
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  16. PLT

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    If you're on the Lightstream unlimited you should get 100Mbps. But I'm guessing that speedtest you did was over wireless? Many laptops don't have a fast enough wireless adapter for the full speeds to be achieved over wireless. If you still get less than 100Mbps over a wired test with no other devices downloading anything elsewhere, then I'd suggest ring KC and they'll be able to help.
     
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  17. BrAdY

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    I want lightstream, sick of my 12mbps
     
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  18. PLT

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    I have about 12-13Mbps at my house and I think it's pretty good.

    Look at some of the speeds mentioned by BT users on this thread. We're lucky to be in the teens!
     
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  19. captaintigerrobin

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    I'd love to be in the teens, I only get 4mbps from KC, the sooner Lightstream arrives the better.
     
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  20. Amin Yapusi

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    People are too spoilt. I remember the days of the 56k dial up modem and waiting 45 minutes to download a 3mb song. Be thankful for what you've got.
     
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