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Player Recruitment

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by The Bonstar Wandit, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Will be especially difficult this summer for a number of reasons:

    • World Cup
    • 4th Place
    • Possible New Manager

    The World Cup will make deals more difficult. Clubs may not want to sell players until afterwards as a good WC can spark interest and up a players value.
    Finishing outside of the Top 4 will make recruitment very difficult - the Europa League just isn't the same.
    Finishing 4th means there is still a CL qualifier to play, and players may be reluctant to move until CL proper is secured, which would be after the WC.
    Having Wenger at the helm would put me off!
    A new manager will need time to evaluate the squad and decide on what and who he wants to bring in.

    All of these together mean we're liikely in for a long summer.
     
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  2. PeterRICK

    PeterRICK Well-Known Member

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    I thought this too. I noticed a few days back that Dortmund have quietly lined up their Lewandowski replacement already. Neat, tidy and early. Why we can't plan ahead is beyond me. I mean, maybe we try to, but if that's the case then we're not particularly good at it!
     
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  3. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    The opposite is true. Not having Wenger at the helm would make it more difficult to sign players. If you think this imaginary new savior is going to come in and fix it all in one window, then you are guilty of extreme wishful thinking.

    What would be more likely to happen if Wenger went this summer is that we'd have Steve Bould in temporary charge and that would make it very difficult to attract the likes of Bender, Mandzukic, Draxler etc.
     
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  4. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    We've been through this. If the club end up with Bould in charge they're guilty of gross negligence. Wenger out, a decent manager in, and this summer could be the start of something beautiful.
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    The club have offered Wenger a two year extension, what makes you suddenly think that they already have a replacement lined up for him for this summer ?

    If we got rid of him at the end of the season, we are not going to be appointing Klopp, Martinez, De Boer or Simeone a week later. That is just wishful thinking based on a flight of fancy.

    You are right to point out that it would be negligent to go into this window with Bould in charge, hence why it would be madness to get rid of Wenger.
     
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  6. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Absolute tosh. Wenger has refused to sign a contract. That should set alarm bells ringing - it has on the forums. The kind of "all eggs in one basket" shortsightedness you're talking about is exactly why Giroud is still the main striker at the club.
     
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  7. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    And round in circles we go. The board have said that they have a contingency plan if Wenger doesn't sign, I can tell you now it isn't Jurgen Klopp.
     
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  8. theresonly1gerrard

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    Buy players that are not going to the World Cup then.

    Like that Swedish striker?
     
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  9. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    With the greatest of respect matey,how the **** do you know that Wenger has refused to sign a new contract ?.Most media outlets seem to think he will sign a two year extension.
     
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  10. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Also, do you know the meaning of the term 'contingency plan' ? It is a plan put in place to mitigate the circumstances that have impacted on the prefered outcome. It is not bringing in Klopp, Guardiola, De Boer, Martinez etc. It is making the best of a bad situation. That's what the club mean when they say 'Contingency' it's a back up to see us through and in all likelihood it will be Bould with the support of some backroom staff. This will not aid our player recruitment one bit and could actually see some players leave.
     
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  11. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Please, oh great one, tell us how you know such things? Another load of tosh, you know nothing more than anyone else on here.

    Um...because Wenger HASN'T signed the contract. They offered it to him, and said "sign this," he said "not now." That's a refusal to sign.


    I do. A contingency plan is a plan in place for "a future event or circumstance which is possible but cannot be predicted with certainty."
    Oh look, Wenger signing a contract can't be predicted with certainty. The board would rather he did, but he might not. A contingency plan for that could be Bould, but it could also be bringing in a top quality manager. There's no reason at all they couldn't be sounding out a decent manager right at this moment in case Wenger decides to leave. Again, you have no evidence at all that Bould will be the replacement. Just speculation and wrist-wringing.
     
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  12. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    As far as I'm concerned by saying Wenger has refused to sign a new contract it means he definitely won't sign,by saying refusing it means he is still open to signing
     
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  13. Redbrynner

    Redbrynner Well-Known Member

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    Imo arsenal should buy zaha in the summer. Quality player in terms of potential snd you could pick him up fot about 5m I reckon. Aldo not likelt to be involved in the world cup. If we didnt have sterling and ibe, I would want him for us. Luis muriel woild also be a goid option for you guys upfront
     
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  14. ToledoTrumpton

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    The situation, as I understand it, is that the board has offered Wenger a new contract, and Wenger has told them verbally he will sign it.

    He hasn't actually signed it though, and most of the stuff I read, think it is because he doesn't want to have the complications that would arise if the situation changes and the club changes their mind. If we win the FA cup and make 4th, there are not too many people that think he will go back on his verbal agreement to sign.
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    No need for the sarcasm, it just makes you look a bit silly so let's stick to reasoned debate.<ok>

    My reasoning is based on a comment I made to you before where I detailed reasons why it would be extremely unlikely, in the timescale you are talking about, that either Klopp, Martinez, Simeone or De Boer would suddenly ditch their clubs without them having a replacement in place. It is also extremely unlikely that having offered Wenger a contract extension that Arsenal would be in any sort of advanced talks with the aforementioned managers.

    So rather than it being 'tosh', it is based on a reasonable judgement of the situation as it presents itself at the moment. The contigency plan in context therefore is not the unveiling of a top manager like Klopp. Do you really think that if it were, we would get that far into negotiations with him to then say 'thanks but no thanks' if Wenger re-signed.

    It makes no sense does it ?
     
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