Found it I think the Kenny Coyle piece? page 31-32 in the latest pdf. Had a read, it's fairly accurate without getting into the whole mess of who said what who did what. it points out things not one of the EU or US media corps would publish. Even though it is clearly not a pro Russia article. A piece like that would never get past a BBC editor. it goes to show though, there are people with cop on who can see through the horseshit the British media are brainwashing people with. The BBC certainly won't tell you there was a 5 man Ex Israeli military team commanding a group of 40 fighters, sorry "protestors" during the protests. Read that on haaretz.com, the Israeli news and they identified the leader of the squad as legitimately Israeli ex military Apparently it's good enough for the BBC to say snipers were police snipers just because the opposition said it detained a sniper police team, never said they did it, or they have evidence, Kiev said they detained them, that is all, BBC puts up the propaganda article to make it seem like the Kiev coup government found the killers. I swear I don't know how the **** there isn't people storming the BBC, they helped get you into the Iraq war, there is currently lots of protests going on over RTE in Ireland, the BBC is the biggest problem in the UK, how can anyone make informed decisions, with the BBC pumping out lies and propaganda, is beyond me. That rotting ****phile covering edifice needs to be ripped down.
Russia is so bad. US 7th grader, a 13yo in school is twirling his pencil in Maths class. Kid behind him exclaims "he's making gun motions send him to juvi" School subject kid to 5 hour physical and psychological examination and suspend him. For twirling a pencil. There are police states and then there are POLICE STATES. [video=youtube;EUxHIYkp20g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EUxHIYkp20g[/video] Just making a point, which is really the communist state here? I think the US is more socialist or communist now than Russia in terms of laws. Free speech? Only in a 1st amendment zone which us usually a pen surrounded as police.
No one did! Russia conquered new territory- but it's going to cost them more money to sustain than they'll earn in tribute from. Especially since said territory used to rely heavily on tourism from rest of Ukraine. Russia has upped cost of gas to Ukraine for retribution to their not rolling over. Result- Hurts Ukraine economy- but also hurts Russia long term because trade between countries will suffer. Trade sanctions hurt everyone. The trust between east and west is at an all time (post-soviet) low. Russia's image in the world has been irreparably tarnished following all that work in the Olympics to build good-will. The West meanwhile will no-doubt look soft and an easy target now after bending over for Putin. Russia's invasion and occupation of Crimea has helped no-one and hurt everyone.
Russia Russia Russia. What is happening now in Ukraine is the government if you can call them that are looking at giving greater autonomy to those regions so they can self manage. It is probably wise given the concerns of those living there about elements of the new government, and it prevents a Crimea situation where trying to take control will change a desire for greater autonomy to independence from Ukraine. The previous government used riot police with shields and batons, this new lot advised their anti terrorist units that the people who took control of buildings in east (Maidan did that very thing taking power) but when these elite inits moved in they found no guns and no fighting occurred. The same units refused to go again, leading to a rethink as the new government can't afford a bloodbath, literally all hell would break lose then and Russia would become involved, of course you think if that happened it would be all Russia's fault. There is many images and footage from eastern Ukraine and it is not Russian infiltrators laying sandbags and building barricades as the media would have you believe, it is 50 year old women, teenagers, pretty much the entire age spectrum. Another "cold war" Well, at least the Royal Navy will get it's £100bn to upgrade the nuke arsenal that it is looking for and the pentagon will get all the budgets they need singed off. Big payday all round for the suppliers of military equipment and the like, meanwhile the IMF will harvest a princely sum per capita from Ukrainian citizens while the stock markets jump for joy at the mere mention of gas prices jumping. What's so ****ed about the media frenzy is people are dying in Syria in a war which has been extended by the UK and US, not a shot fired over Crimea. Milk, question, isn't it a bit odd that there is nothing coming out of Crimea, given it just got invaded and annexed. Surely there would be a lot of noise coming out about this from the Crimean population as well as the UN being contacted by representatives of those people. Nothing. Are we to believe that's because some iron curtain has fallen over Crimea Your illogical russophobia is hilarious. Russia is gangs in all walks of life. Stalin is dead though who needs Stalin when we have presidents who can detain you without trial indefinitely, and also have you murdered because of what you might do in the future. Sounds pretty much like Stalinist Russia to me, and yet happens to be the biggest "democracy" in the world. please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
Did anyone see this baby on the news? Broke my heart it did, hasnt got the energy to cry http://www.itv.com/news/2014-04-11/walaa-syria-douma/ (*Warning - not nice and upsetting) She will be brain damaged and paralysed. ****ing wars
What you mean like the Ukrainian lady who ran a pro-Ukraine night club that was beat up by Russians and forced to leave Crimea. Or the ethnic Russians who grew up after the fall of the soviet empire and don't want to be part of Russia. Or the Tartars who live there that want independence from Crimea? Or the complaints from all along the east border about all the buses of Russian citizens coming into Ukraine and joining the protests. There is plenty of news if you're not just getting your news from state-sponsored Russian sources. By the way constantly attacking the EU or the US in this is a huge strawman. So what if Obama kills children with drones, not admirable, but has nothing to do with the Ukraine. I'm not a fan of Obama, US foreign policy, or the NSA either. I thought Mitterand could be a bit of a jerk from time to time; Hitler was definitely an arse, and Napolean was a despotic maniac that ruined France for generations for personal glory. None of that really matters in regards to Ukraine though.
Russia/Crimea ... UK/Falklands/Gibraltar. No one wants to go to war against Russia ... except the mad Chechen/Afghan warriors. In Beirut there were never any Russian people kidnapped because none of the kidnapper fraternity wanted Spetsnas knocking on their door. Internevtion is a complex calculation based on factors such as oil, other resources, what is there to gain/lose, will anyone mind, how easy will it be, how easy a sell is it to the public, what are the likely casualties, geo-politics ... will a war help win the election .. It has absolutely nothing to do with high ideals of helping your fellow man, or even the lie of spreading democracy.
The West are powerless to stop Putin now, as the only effective means of response they can give will lead to the imaginable and a nuclear war. Putin has done in Russia exactly what Hitler did in Germany in the 30's by making his country a world super power and annexing previously held territories. The similarities are terrifyingly frightening and plain to see.
understanding fail or avoidance of the real question which is it? The question, let me rephrase it, Russia supposedly took over the Crimea and rigged elections, so there should be a serious amount of people who are extremely unhappy about this situation. They should be coming out in drives to the western media on social networks and so on, and the western media would be currently running amok with the stuff as it would be the first shred of proof of what people like you believe happened, funnily enough because of history, not any factual proof of any kind whatsoever, that's what makes your claims so ludicrous, not one shred has any basis in facts, just beliefs As for thugs, both sides have been beating the **** out of each other and it's a vicious cycle that's been going on a long time before Maidan protests, for decades actually. I don't see your concern for Ukrainian citizens that get the **** knocked out of them because they are deemed to be pro Russia. I find it strange given our familiarity with thugs that are just thugs and do the things they do because they are thugs and not any other particular reason, like the scum that ran amok in paris recently, they take an opportunity to attack people because they? support another football club, and here we have the same thing happening over nationality, the majority don't take to violence and your attempt to claim the few scum that do this represent the many pro Russia people is pathetic and such a stupid DANGEROUS generalisation, the kind you hear coming from Boris Johnson, sweeping biased comments that are ultimately useless hot air.
This is sickening. I've kids myself and it makes me extremely angry. Me n the misses donate to red cross, do not donate to http://www.handinhandforsyria.org.uk/ They are the Syrian opposition posing as a charity and backed by BBC propaganda. They were involved in cooking up the napalm attack with BBC on Panorama. The money may just go on gear for jihad fighters. This lot called for the US bombing, they wanted it and yet they are posing as a charity to help children. Their logo has the flag of the opposition, since being asked by a British reporter about that it has now been changed. The doctor from the panorama doc, her father works with the opposition, independent my arse. Charity logo please log in to view this image SNA flag please log in to view this image What is really sickening is that the US and UK are keeping that war going by continuously arming one side. That civil war would have lasted a few weeks to a couple of months had there not been outside interference.
I believe your government are too busy putting in place no fly zones over a ranch in nevada while also building a large compound and deploying so many agents and snipers, k9 units, setting up first amendment zones ect ect over Bundy grazing his cattle on public land that the BLM want to lease out for fracking. At the cost of about $5m to the tax payer currently There's actually quite a standoff with locals and the feds over this. MURRICA! Really is good to see people stand up to those feds though tbh
Falklands had a vote to stay with Britain, Crimea chose not to remain part of Ukraine. That's probably where the similarity ends. I wonder what would have happened if the Falklands had voted to join Argentina?
Putin sending in his elite forces into Eastern Ukraine. Terrifying Milk aren't they please log in to view this image
Then they would have been allowed to leave. Just as Scotland will if they vote to leave the union- and just as Gibraltar would. I don't think anyone is against territories having self-determination. Crimea is no exception. You just don't bring in a bunch of Russians from across the border to vote instead of the people who live there. You don't militarily annex the country first. You don't send in troops to take over military barracks of the nation that it belongs to from other countries first. If Crimea had done this peacefully, and had Russia not got involved by sending troops over, I think most in the West would have said "Sorry, Kiev, let 'er go". As it is, places like Scotland, Gibraltar, and Northern Island, want to be British so they quite-rightly are. We don't know if Crimea wants to be Russian or not- Russians make up slight majority- but younger Russians as a group don't want to be part of Russia, a country they don't remember being part of- so it's probably close to 50-50 split. I doubt Russia, your shining beacon of light and democracy, is going to let Chechnya secede now. Or even the regions within Crimea that say they want to secede from Crimea.
Sending people in to vote in Crimea in their thousands? What the **** is wrong with people these days, no longer do we have to have any proof of ANY kind, just assume because the media fits what we believe. Same nonsense about South Ossetia. The media say Russia was going into Georgia and handing out passports as a pretext to "help Russians" but again no proof was provided. I assume you are the exception Milk and you have good sources of information I have not come across, care to share these reliable sources? You just do not understand at all the nature of the situation. You do not understand what it means to many to see those who took power and banned their language, a language that almost the entire eastern regions speak. I suppose you think the protests in eastern Ukraine are all again Russian infiltrators. I think this question probably sheds light on the crap being spouted on Crimea. Answer me this riddle/ Why did Russia not absorb Ukraine when it had a friendly government? Why did Russia wait until Ukraine had a government that hated them? Why did Russia wait until the world all had it's eyes on Crimea to act? Makes no ****ing sense whatsoever. If Russia wanted Ukraine or Crimea all of this could have happened BEFORE the "revolution" Also, had half the population of Falklands been Argentinian and the join Argentina vote won, the British media and you would be saying the argies rigged the election and sent in people to vote.
