They'll make out that it does save their face, though they might want to do a bit more posturing to the FA as well.
I always knew the figures would be massaged (or made up) to give this result but what's most annoying is the way this is being reported in the media with the headline "fans vote yes to name change". What a load of ****, how come the club worked out how to do positive PR all of a sudden?
No point in talking about any missing votes as no one has a way of knowing which way they would have gone. That's kinda the point of a vote. The vote is irrelevant anyways so not sure why CTWD are crying so much. #Kleenexdispatched
You thick ****. People didn't vote because they refused to play Allam's silly games with his pathetically worded ballot. The only thing this has demonstrated is how very few people (17%) are in favour of the name change.
Good to hear that some of the people who didn't vote wrote to the F.A. Bit of a shame that some thought it'd jeopardize their Wembley chances. I'd rather not go if it meant Leicester City were going to be called Leicester Foxes.
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...ans-vote-yes/story-20924131-detail/story.html City say counting was carried out by Bristol-based Beyond Dispute, a company of independent adjudicators, and represents the first poll leaning in favour of change. http://www.beyonddispute.co.uk/ "Fairness advice, vote verification and Ofcom compliance We provide any organisation that is running a competition - both non-broadcast and television production companies, broadcasters, publishers and website operators with a fully independent adjudication and verification service for broadcast and non-broadcast competitions, quizzes, and contests. We work all types of organisations to ensure that they can confirm fair play at all times. We also work with television production companies both on formats and during production to help ensure that a show not only appears to be fair but is fair. We work alongside our clients helping ensure that decisions are effectively communicated to participants and voters so that they (and viewers where relevant) maintain confidence in the vote or competion and and how participants are being treated. We will work with you to ensure competitions and promotions can be run fairly and that you are compliant with the CAP code. We will audit your questions and terms and conditions and will judge tiebreakers and select winners." Did they have any influence on the wording of the ballot?
Question: How did the Club know how many had voted? It was supposed to be a secret ballot, adjudicated by a third party......
A few people from Beyond Dispute who I'm sure will be clearing up some of our questions very shortly. http://www.beyonddispute.co.uk/ourpeople.html If not, I'm sure they won't mind being asked directly.
Surely that makes them more important? What if all of them were yes votes? Would you be bothered then?
It's just wonderful isn't it? That the mighty Allams can crush any attempt at rebellion with their lies. Power to the Allam regime!
But that was a big mistake. Are you telling me that 9000+ who abstained all refused to Vote No to Hull Tigers because they didn't want to show a lack of support? If you were in the "No" camp then I don't see why you'd abstain, it's not like this option wasn't available in the poll... if those who abstained were all in the "No" camp, then they abstained because there was no option to refuse the name change AND support the Allams. But surely if they had such strong convictions they would have said "**** showing support to Allams, I'm voting no full stop" Which leads me to thinks that it's unlikely those who abstained were in the No camp. At most, they were on the fence.
Why wouldn't they answer those questions that got posed to them last week? Maybe the result would have been accepted much more readily if they had.
But the point of a vote is to get factual numbers. Court of law doesn't take IFs and Buts into consideration.
This is the key. They were asked to clear up some obvious issues surrounding the legitimacy of the poll and they refused. The ardent Allam fans will of course come up with some above board reasoning for that, but to most people that'll be plainly obvious that they had something to hide. The owners didn't want to do a poll, they just wanted to get a yes result, partly so they can carry this on in the courts to ensure they aren't shown to be the losers here, and partly so that they could 'get one over' on the fans. They didn't even put much heart into pretending they wanted a fair poll; only a day or two after Ehab said on the radio that he "just wanted the fans to vote whichever way they think is best" they printed a full page 'Yes to Hull Tigers' ad in the HDM.
