When have I ever said I don't like that song being sung? Link please. Oh, more lies and smears being perpetuated by CTWD members. Please vote NO for CTWD to continue. (It doesn't bother me, I don't sing at games, sometimes join in with the odd chant, but never sing)
You are talking bollocks as normal. Lammie is very knowledgeable about City. He gets a lot of info from sources which generally turn out to be spot on. Hes not trying to be anything other than himself and tries his best to share any info with all supporters. The fact that he is a member of CTWD is totally irrellavant . Your reasoning that CTWD have done nothing is one of the most ridiculous comments I have heard from any City supporter. Whether you agree with it or not they have had a major influence on the result of this situation. You ought to bring up their website and download their document and video that they produced. I think it is one of the most professional things I have seen put together and if you don't think it is then tough. They don't speak for the likes of you and quite a number of others who want this name change, granted. But they speak for a very healthy number of supporters, probably more than anyone knows. What they have done for this club is advertise just what a fool Allam has been. I have ever admiration for the way that he saved the club and the way he has backed Sb. But that has been completely washed away by his bitter and twisted comments and the timing of them. The fact is that Allam completely misread the suppoters and the backlash that there has been. A huge percentage do not want the name change irrespective as to whether they are members of CTWD or not. They want it to remain as it is, they want to keep the heritage of the club and not become an absolute laughing stock. If you cant see it or not Im not interested. But don't go belittling people who have fought a decent campaign to get it stopped.
Anyway, about this CITY cards thingy! Is it a no then? How is it that we are not allowed to mention the word CITY or TIGERS without the usual arguments? We're playing at wembley and we should be all as one, because you can bet your lives the blades will be noisy as hell! But I must admit it would look good if AA turned to the left @ 19.04 and got a big face full of CITY.
Couldn't agree more greengrocer. But there will deffo be a fine rendition of DTWD have no doubt about it.
Full of sh1t? - The Allams saved our club - The Allams invested in young players (players for the future) - Invested in different areas including scouting etc - Invested in Steve Bruce, arguably our best ever manager - We get to the premier league again - The investment paid off and the Allams backed Bruce in both transfer windows spending over 35 million combined. - We are doing really well and with the right manager and team we have excelled expectations. - We have reached the semi final of the cup at Wembley, win or lose the final we could be in europe next season which means further significant investment is going to be needed so we can compete on both fronts (europe and the premier league). See... all of what the Allams have done are positives, and if changing the name of the club is one negative it cannot be a bad thing, when changing the name keeps him happy and keeps us as a club pushing forward... Changing the name isn't a backwards step, it's our future. What people seem to forget is that the future is just as important as the past. CTWD are not looking at the bigger picture! They're a minority group that don't share the same view as myself, friends and work colleagues.
CTWD have commended them for doing all of the above and have only criticised them for their one really poor idea. Changing the name obviously isn't our future, it's about to be rejected by the FA. As for whether we are in the majority, or in the minority, we'll never know, as AA removed any chance of us finding out.
First of all, read what CTWD was about. Their aims are quite clear, and it had nothing to do with attacking or wanting the Allams out. That's just what those in favour of the name change are saying, to try make out we're luddites, they hate the owners & not progressive. Secondly, how's the money, Ehab quoted in his last interview, going to allow us to fight on two fronts (assuming we do get to Europe)? Face reality. Their argument was floored. In fact, they never had the basis of a decent argument and they've been found out.
Try reading my post again, you can read cant you. I think you will see that I praised them for that. Full of ****, I don't think so. I think you are one of those people that doesn't look at the full picture before gobbing off like you do. CTWD are looking at the full picture. Their aim is only one thing and that is to stop this bloody ridiculous charade about the name change. They have put in a very professional argument against that and only that. They have acted in a professional manner unlike Allam who has insulted people with his inane ranting and raving usually before any really important game. Great timing eh? CTWD isn't a minority, how many people are in your office 2 or three? Oen your bloody eyes and see what has been going on. I mean neither Allam nor his lad could actually tell us just where all this new investment is coming from if we change the name. They have dug a great hole on a whim and now they cant back track because it would make them look like fools.
Middle class ? Is that some kind of insult now ? I've heard some people in CTWD are working class , shocking isn't it
I'm saying it's a no, purely in terms of trying to make it work. You'd have a fair bit of work organising it in advance, just in terms of getting the cards made, put into the correct order for putting out on the seats, and making sure people knew what needed to go where once you were in the ground. With the game kicking off at 4.07pm the turnstiles will open at maybe 2pm? You'd want to be done and dusted before that, probably by about 1.30pm to give you time to deal with issues, so based on the one worked on at work (for 1,000 cards), to get it set up for 3-4000 cards to be on the right seats I'd say you'd be looking to have access to the stand from midday at the very latest, and that would be based on having enough people to place the cards and them knowing what they were doing. I know putting a card out isn't difficult, but it only takes one of them to accidentally do something like turn a pile over and start from the bottom rather than the top and the whole thing is ****ed, so you want the time to ensure that can't happen. I'd be amazed if Wembley/the FA allowed an independent fans group any access to the stand before the turnstiles opened just in general, they're certainly not going to if the reason is a political one. (which this is in terms of the politics of football) Personally though, even if it was possible I wouldn't like to see CTWD organising anything at Wembley, not a few days after the decision is due to be announced. Even if it was just done to support the team, if the FA has said no it would just come across as a really ****y act to be making a big deal out of it rather than moving on and enjoying the FA Cup Semi-Final. It'd be a bit like finding out in the week of your wedding that your Mrs' ex who you thought was just a mate had been trying to get her back, and responding by making your wedding speech rubbing it in his face that she was with you not him. You just wouldn't do it, you'd have the wedding day as your wedding day and then if you needed to you'd deal with any issues with him at a later date.
I shall be voting yes to CTWD continuing its sterling work. You have no input in the vote so hush now.
I think you've misunderstood the gist of my post & to whom it was aimed although after examining the content of your post your lack of understanding doesn't surprise me. How long have you held you inferiority complex?
Too many cooks spoil a broth. You can't force democracy onto a football club especially the way it the English Premier league is currently run. If too many people start to try and have a say it'll be chaos. At least the Allams have the merit of claiming they own the damn thing and have pumped far more money in than the fans. It's obvious CTWD have a hidden agenda. The part ownership aspiration was hidden for a while until they were pretty much found out and had to admit it. If you want to be there to avoid really poor decisions from the owners, fine but clearly they're hoping for more and I don't want a club where every decision is confronted and dealt with in 6 months such as this one.
