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  1. Deleted #

    Deleted # Well-Known Member

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    It's on the back page of the sun, that Gus has took a huff because his line-up for the Liverpool match was guessed right that morning by the Sun newspaper.

    Gus is saying it was leaked and The Sun are saying it was a pure guess.

    The Sun have also claimed that Lee Cattermole is known as a mole. (leaks info to media)
     
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  2. password invalid

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    pathetic from both angles
     
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    Deletion Requested1 Well-Known Member

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    Well that must be the first thing the sun has got right
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Hang on, they deny the leak claiming it was a guess yet name the player who's giving them the leak? Which is it? Either there was a link or there wasn't, it can't be both. need to see the story.

    Edit: They claim Catts is a mole but had nowt to do with this story. Edit: Ha ha! Bit slow today <laugh>
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    Hang on, it's the first time we've played 3 at the back all season. Like they'd really be able to guess that?
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    This. Poyet's in the right in my eyes. Someone is a little **** in that dressing room.
     
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  7. grandpops

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    Aye. Seems like a bit more than guesswork to me.
     
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  8. password invalid

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    well if you subscribe to reading the sun you are a dimwit to start with are you not,is elvis still on the moon .
     
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  9. The Outlaw

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    That was not a lineup that could have been guessed if the Sun were given 100 tries. Gus has every right to be upset. Summer clear out inevitable.
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    The Suns article. Brief and non-informative. Not to mention the removal of the comments section for the article.

    SUNDERLAND have incredibly banned The Sun for daring to tell you Gus Poyet&#8217;s team LINE-UP!
    The Black Cats took the extraordinary decision to banish the nation&#8217;s favourite paper from the Stadium of Light for the rest of the season.

    Manager Poyet was furious we correctly predicted his team for Wednesday&#8217;s Premier League clash at Liverpool &#8212; claiming a Sunderland mole had leaked us the line-up.

    The only mole we know of at Sunderland is skipper Lee Cattermole and we are happy to confirm he had nothing to do with our story.

    Sunderland&#8217;s action yesterday came after they lost 2-1 at Anfield, where defeat kept them in the bottom three.

    The Black Cats now face West Ham on Monday night &#8212; and we&#8217;ve even got a likely line-up for that, Gus!

    The big question now is: Will The Sun find a way of beating the ban to bring you a true, honest and unbiased report of the game or will the club succeed in denying fans the chance to see their club in Britain&#8217;s favourite paper? Watch this space...



    Now here's a very informative article from The RokerReport which really spills the beans.

    The Sun has been banned from Sunderland after the club reacted furiously to the newspaper giving away Gus Poyet's team for the Liverpool game.

    Now, I have to admit that media bans from clubs is not something that I personally advocate or enjoy seeing, but I can at least understand why the club are unhappy in this instance. It seems clear that a trust has been breached.

    It all stems from a tweet from journalist David Coverdale, who the morning of the Liverpool game said (after it had already been printed in the paper):

    Hearing Poyet will play an unusual team at Liverpool tonight. Five at back, Jozy and Connor together upfront, Johnson and Ki dropped.

    That tweet has since been deleted as, in Coverdale's own words, "a gesture of good will after the club complained", whilst he insists that all he is guilty of is an "informed prediction" which he just happened to get right. That's an educated guess, to you and me.

    That's obviously a very difficult story to believe given the precision of his prediction. He got the shape right, the front two right, and the two big name absences right, when none had any kind of precedent. One you could put down to a lucky guess, two possibly an 'informed prediction', but all three? When no one else was able to make a similar prediction? Come on.

    And somehow we have managed to get from "hearing" to "predicting", which is similarly fishier than a seafood paella. Inconsistency so seldom aligns with honesty. His story is fooling no one, is it.

    It seems apparent that Coverdale did indeed hear something and then broke that trust by reporting it. That, at least, seems to have been the position taken by the club, and since they are the ones who dish out the press passes, their perception is the important one.

    The question really is whether or not the ban is justified?

    It's tough to really answer without knowing whether or not there is a past history, although it's worth noting that it was The Sun who did the recent interview with Paolo Di Canio about which the club were furious and threatened legal action.

    From Coverdale's point of view, he was simply doing his job. He was discovering the facts and reporting them; covering Sunderland. You can't fault his accuracy.

    But I think that when you have a contact there is a certain line to tread. I don't know the conditions upon which he was granted the information, but it's pretty obvious that publishing privileged information about a manager's team and tactics well before a game is not going to go down especially well. You must know you are risking overstepping that line and falling foul of the consequences. In the regard, especially given his pretty obvious dishonesty about the nature of the information, it's tough to have any sympathy with him really.

    Fair play to the club for responding with a bit of strength, but I'd probably prefer clubs didn't ban newspapers. I think it just creates more bad press in the long run than whatever the initial story could have alone. It seems a little counter-productive to me. I'd rather the leak was just found and dealt with internally. Banning a journalist from the club isn't going to stop someone picking up a phone.

    Hopefully it all blows over quickly, it's just a slap on the wrist, and people start getting along again. Bigger things to worry about right now!


    Yep, the Sun is Bang out of order and we do indeed have a mole imo.
     
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    I've watched Sunderland loads this season And I could never have guessed that. The sUN are full of ****
     
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    I can say a couple other things about Cattermole a well!
     
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    imo there's not a chance that catts leaked this. if there's one good thing any newspaper is very good at is protecting it's sources, otherwise all sources would dry up.
     
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  14. password invalid

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    stop reading it and get some proper bog paper
     
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  15. QWOP

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    <laugh> What a small world! I know the journalist.......
     
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  16. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Is he usually this stupid?
     
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  17. QWOP

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    He is actually a very intelligent guy. It probably was just a guess to be honest. He isn't the sort of person to do anything dodgy.
     
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    `Hearing Poyet will play an unusual team at Liverpool tonight. Five at back, Jozy and Connor together upfront, Johnson and Ki dropped.

    That tweet has since been deleted as, in Coverdale's own words, "a gesture of good will after the club complained", whilst he insists that all he is guilty of is an "informed prediction" which he just happened to get right. That's an educated guess, to you and me.

    Hearing? = he`s been told (note the word `will`)(not might?)
    deleted tweet? = he`s been caught.
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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    It wasn't a guess fella.


    "Hearing Poyet will play an unusual team at Liverpool tonight. Five at back, Jozy and Connor together upfront, Johnson and Ki dropped."

    He said he'd heard it for a start. We haven't played 5 at the back once this season, we rarely play two up front and never started Jozy and Connor together. If you think he guessed you're as gullible as The Sun thinks we are. They're fooling nobody here. Suppose he consulted Mystic Meg, they are colleagues after all <doh>
     
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  20. QWOP

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    In all honesty, it is The Sun, so anything is possible. A ****ty paper which is only useful as bog roll.
     
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