you mean the poison and rotten comments? it's just an expression for the poor players who's efforts are minimal. No abuse from me, you might want to go and view few of the Jozy threads to see what real name calling is. You say the only criticism you can have is a lack of effort? Go for it, there's a lack of effort being displayed left right and centre.
When Di Canio arrived I was 100% behind him and believed what he said about the attitude of a lot of our players because we could see it on the pitch. I also supported the stance he took by naming and shaming these vastly overpaid workshy dicks and felt it was the appropriate way to deal with such issues. Unfortunately this is the premier league and not real life. A place where men are spoilt immature bitches and any criticism offends their delicate sensibilities leafing to strikes and dummies thrown out of their prams and Do Canios departure. Enter Gus who being a little more laid back saw the players put a bit of effort in initially. Now we see the true colours of our squad creeping back in. Those who are happy to turn up and take their paycheck with the least effort required. There is a sour core at the heart of our club. Hopefully Gus will succeed where Do Canio failed.
What Short should have done was said 'You don't play for any manager or owner, you play for the club & it's fans, now get your bone idle ****ing arses out there & earn you wages'
If not for the financial implications I think a spell in the championship could potentially be better for us in the long run! We can get rid of the rotten apples (lazy useless bastards), build a team of players who actually give a **** and would jump at the chance of playing in the top tier, and hopefully in a season or two come back to the premier league a little bit stronger! Obviously instant promotion back to the top flight is not a guarantee (ask Blackburn/Bolton/Wolves etc), but I cant see anything drastic changing if we potter along in the lower end of the premier league with the type of players we seem to keep attracting! Like I say, if this had been 20/30 years ago when relegation was not a financial disaster, I wouldn't be too concerned about it and be hopeful that relegation might be a blessing in disguise!
Can't beleive people are actually saying PDC was right again. We're a ****ing fickle bunch aren't we? Bardo and Catts were 2 players sidelined by PDC, and they are arguably our most dedicated players. Hell, **** knows where we would be if we hadnt had Catts and Bardo in our team this season. Critical goals bardo has scored, and the natural leadership Poyet is talking about in Cattermole.... Bloody hell, one of the culprits on the pitch against Norwich was Colback, who was PDCs golden boy. PDC is a maniac, and we would have been confirmed for relegation back in January if he hadnt been sacked
Hang on a minute, Bardo has scored nearly as many own goals, both have cost us points on mistakes. Who's fickle like?
How am I fickle you stupid ****? I said from day one PDC shouldn't of been sack. Why has poyet dropped this natural leader in Cattermole then?
For Paolo, you would need to go all in for him to succeed. The club didn't. He was too much too quickly.
Wait up you stupid twat, where did I point at you personally? Cattermole was dropped due to individual mistakes, not his attitude. no player is immune to making mistakes. Bardo is the same, he has made some error (own goals) but his attitude has been one of the best so far this season.
There is a difference between loyalty and stupidity. I agree that a number of players have been taking the p *** for quite a while and have seen 3 managers off. I listened to Gary Bennett on the Norwich game . He asked how we hoped to achieve anything with such a low effort , we could not even get the basics right . Norwich knew the importance of the game and won. I can tolerate losing but I cannot tolerate a gross lack of effort. We need these players out and get in players who want to play and who will give their all. Until that happens, we are goosed. I hope Poyet stays, but. I hope they go.
Well by the sound of it you was calling the PDC fans fickle. You say Cattermole was dropped for mistakes so does that mean other players like O'Shea will get dropped tonight then? he **** up on saturday & if Poyet had a clue then he would of knew cattermole was our best midfield before he made them mistakes. I'm not his biggest fan but **** me he is better than Bridcutt & that.
I've just read back through the thread and nobody has even attacked the commitment of Bardo and Catts.
I shouldnt have pointed out the goals he has scored, cos yes he has also made mistakes. But you cant fault his attitude since he came back under Poyet - which was my main point (being that, how can PDC has been so right about the players, when the 2 players he f**ked over the most have actually had the best attitudes under poyet). we, football fans, in general are a fickle bunch. have a good run of games and form, and all things are wonderful and poyet is a brilliant man manger etc. couple of crap games, and we are back to "players are **** and rotten, PDC was right" How about it being a case of a bunch of players who arent as skillful as we would like, a club that has been badly managed the last few seasons so as soon as things start going wrong they collapse (morale), a couple of palyers who dont have the right attitude etc. so a whole bunch of reasons, not just "sack the entire lot, the players are to blame for everything" PDC was a f**king tool, he was a **** manager, cos he failed to manage the players. Not many player good enough to play in the premier league will have the attitude we want, cos they are all highly paid pansies. Not just JoS, or larsson or any other individual player - but a good manager can manage that successsfuly. PDC wasnt successful- end of story. JoS is part of the best defencive partnership we have had this season (with Brown) Catts was sidelined by PDC, but Poyet says he is a natural leader bardo is one of the players with the best attitude since he came back the players who let us down (the most) against Norwich are Ki and Colback. Colback being PDC's golden boy, and Ki supposedly one of our most talented palyers, who who put in 0% effort agisnt Norwhich - who wasnt even part of the bunch who got PDC thrown out.
People on here saying PDC was right, but the 2 players who he sidelined/attacked the most are 2 players we agree (you just did) that have the best attitudes. so how can PDC have been right, if the 2 players he maligned the most are actually players with the best attitudes so far this season?
Both are sh*te, just look better cos they are surrounded by sh*te. Both Di Canio and Poyet have suffered due to Keane and Bruce's poor signings. It must be as frustrating as F*CK for them when fans lay into them for other peoples sh*te players. We need to stick with Gus. The only lad we had a bit of success was Reidy by sticking with him.
Because he breached club rules twice, the second led to a club suspension issued from the board room. I wanted him sacked then and I wouldn't offer him a new contract now. Yes he's worked hard, whoppy ****ing do. There's players in league two who can match him on commitment and effort, it doesn't make them premiership players. Bardo is ****e. Catt's, I love him, but he can't distribute the ball and he lacks composure in possession. In the philosophy we play neither are good enough unfortunately (they're not hte only ones). They can huff and puff all they like doesn't mean anything if the rest of the team aren't pulling their weight which brings me onto the other pathetic playing staff who frankly are the biggest let downs especially as some of them do actually have the ability to play this type of football. In essence, Paolo was right. We're ****e. We're mentally and physically weak. We have players who lack both the skill and the desire. The Squad is all kinds of wrong. Except Borini who's attitude actually matches his capabilities. I said it when MoN was sacked, I said it when Paolo was sacked and I'm still saying it now.
