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Tuesday 25th March 2014 Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by woolcombe-folly007, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Call The Cops. That’s something that no-one would ever do in relation to Mr Henderson. The old boy looks to have found a nice opening for him here though.

    Ridgeway Storm is like Tiger Cliff in that Mr Ponsonby has moved him from Lady Cecil’s but he’s being campaigned on the level rather than over the sticks! Looks another that has been found a nice race providing the Andy Balding newcomer isn’t some sort of superstar.
     
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  2. Dexter

    Dexter Well-Known Member

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    Yeah,too right...plus all those impatient owners to deal with...definite strain on the old tear ducts!

    Jim Culloty is unique I would venture when he states training is easier and less pressurised than riding.
     
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  3. You See

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    Sea cadet ew
     
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  4. Dexter

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    He did have a face like thunder when Champagne Fever was mugged on the line in the Arkle but he did keep it together tbf.
     
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  5. Dexter

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    Nass,I doubt he'll be training too many Montjeu's!
     
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  6. Ollie

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    Afternoon all,

    2:00 Chepstow - Call the cops

    Good luck
     
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  7. NassauBoard

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    Well there will be a few of them knocking about over hurdles still I guess!
     
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  8. Bostonbob

    Bostonbob Well-Known Member

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    Done by the shortest of short nostrils
     
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  9. Ollie

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    Gutted.

    Way it's going of late.

    Good luck all with your bets.
     
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  10. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Call The Cops! Hendo chinned on the line!
     
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  11. Dexter

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    Tbf Barney,Dougie Costello did his best to get the winner beaten...he looks a really nice type.
     
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  12. NassauBoard

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  13. You See

    You See Well-Known Member

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    Let the BOOOOOOOOOOOOMS CONTINUE SEA CADET AT 12S GO CRACKER GO CRACKER GO CRACKER BOOOOOOOOM


    CRACKER STYLE <party>
     
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  14. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Ive been immersed in Meydan for the past week or so.

    In the World Cup I have Military Attack 10/1 and Akeed Mofeed 14/1 with preference for the latter, hes by Dubawi who has a good record on the tapeta and the race should play to his to style, Military Attack is the best horse in the race but he has the surface and likely slowish pace to overcome. Ruler Of The World is an absolute gift to the punters, completely dominating the betting and has absolutely no chance of winning. Prince Bishop is solid but he has had nice trips and this is a better race, dont think he can win. Mukhadram is interesting, if he handles the surface he could certainly run a huge race, expect him to be handy but I expect Akeed Mofeed to take care of him. Belshazaar is a dirt horse, this isnt dirt. Sanshaawes is the one outside of the Hong Kong pair that I can see running a big one, certainly wouldnt put anyone off him at 16/1 e/w.

    My main bet is Giovanni Boldini 7/2 in the UAE Derby, still 3/1 around. Charlie Appelby had 6 winners from 36 first time out, he is 0 from 26 with all subsequent runners, he trains from the same base in dubai that Al Zarooni trained from and Al Zaroonis record last year was similar, 9 from 41 first time, only 1 from 38 after first runs. So overall, Godolphin runners from that base over the last 2 years are 15 from 80 first time and 1 from 64 in runs after. It was obvious early in the Carnival that Appelbys horses where much fitter than anyone elses and thats not the only thing against the supposed goodthing Long John in my book, I dont think he will stay the trip. He was impressive last time out but he was a sprinter winning a mile race and just had too much speed for them. Obrien has a great record in this race, Giovanni Boldini has a good draw and Ryan Moore to help, he has the best form and an ideal pedigree, I think he is nailed on. Asmar was flattered last time.

    The Godolpin Mile looks between the front 3 in the betting, they seem to have a class edge over the others although Flotilla still has potential for better. I am giving Variety Club 11/2 another chance, he has been drawn in the car park and thats why you are getting 11/2, if he had missed his last race he would be no bigger than 5/2. They were a bit worried about the bounce with him last time and despite the wide draw, getting held out wide by a no hoper and getting taken on for the lead, I just think the horse ran flat, it was not the same animal to my eye that won first time out at the Carnival. First time looked a much smoother race for him but he actually set stronger fractions and broke the track record, he was the only horse at the carnival to make all and win in any race at any trip! He has the wide draw but I dont see it being much of an issue if this horse is back to himself. Shuruq just picked up the pieces last time and Soft Falling Rain could be a bigger danger but if Variety Club brings his A game he should account for these comfortably.

    The Duty Free look on paper probably the most competitive race of the meeting, The Fugue is a bookie horse and as always when fav, I expect her to do the bookies another turn, this isnt her trip or her race, she should be in the Sheema Classic where she would have had a good chance. Just A Way the Japanese horse has shown a lethal turn of foot and seems to have developed into one of the best horses in Japan, my worry for him in this race is his style of running, they go a right end to end gallop in Japan and it remains to be seen if he can put his acceleration to use in a Duty Free where they will likely crawl up front once settled down. Dank looks ideal for the race in style, whether she is good enough im not sure. Mshawish was impressive last time, he will run a race but I think a mile might be his best trip. In the last 6 years, horses coming from overseas to run first time in this race have a poor record, only 3 places from 18, Cityscape won, Darjina 2nd, Giofra 3rd, and considering these are usually top class horses who get taken over for these races it could be quite significant, slight worry for anyone backing the top 3. The vast majority of winners and placers in this race have run at least 2 times at Meydan, Mick De Kock has never won the race but he has finished second a few times and his main runner always seems to run a race. I think he has the winner this year in Vercingetorix 7/1, unbeaten in 6 career starts, he reportedly did not handle the journey over but still managed to win first time out for a trainer who is known for horses always needing their first run. He has the ideal style for the race and the right turn of foot, De Kock says he only does enough in front and does not know how good he is, it was a career best last time and he will likely need another career best here but im convinced this horse will be involved at the business end, especially if he gets a nice draw on Wednesday, and if he gets past Mshawish, it will take a big performance from one of them hold up horses to catch him. One I do think is worth a mention in this is Educate 33/1, I know this is ROTO's horse but he has shown plenty in two quiet runs so far, not getting much luck in running and I can see him running a massive race but whether he is good enough to win I dont know.
     
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  15. Bostonbob

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    Blue Heron.

    ****ing hell.

    Sensational for a Tuesday at Chepstow.
     
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  16. You See

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    BOOOOOOOOOOOM PATENTS LOOKING GOOD BOOOOOOOOOOM CRACKER STYLE<party>

    pilgreen
     
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  17. You See

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    Sorry wooly<whistle>
     
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  18. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Incredible uncle.
     
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  19. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If a horse beats another, officialy rated 108, by what could have been a distance, unextended, what is the minimum rating of the winner, assuming the beaten horse ran to its form? The winner, making its début over hurdles, led from start to finish and eased a furlong out to win as it liked.

    PS. Giving the beaten horse 7lb
     
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  20. NassauBoard

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    there is no minimum rating as the second could have run worse than form.
     
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