Yes Sporti, I'm well aware of it., Here is the conclusion to the FIA publication, which is very much in accord with my point of view: Different words of course, but certainly, it's my understanding.
Sounds like Red Bull believe themselves to be so big they can actually take on the FIA now and discredit even them. Quite amazing to be honest even as a Seb fan.
I don't see them getting a favorable decision on this one tbh. Regardless of wether they can prove their car was within the required limits or not, they were still outside the regulations. I'm not sure why they feel they can get anything from this. Crying shame for Ricciardo.
Kravitz mentions on the F1 show that Ricciardo would of finished behind Alonso if he was running the FIA sensor readings.
Sad thing though... Even if RBR are totally in the right, I just don't see them getting anywhere with this. It's a bloody shame though as Ricciardo had a great weekend and showed that RBR still have a chance of having some good results. Even if the Mercs are light years ahead right now.
Individually calibrated FIA fuel sensors, who will suddenly catch up with the mercs, Alonso? let him get his triple WDC?
Said the same back in 2012, didn't leave. It's his way of flexing his muscle against the FIA in that this is as far as the new rules go for now boys or I'm off.
The interesting point about the delay to the appeal, could Red Bull be DSQ from 3 races in a row: Red Bull risk exclusion from 1[SUP]st[/SUP] 3 races As announced at the weekend, the FIA will hear Red Bull Racing’s appeal against their exclusion from the Melbourne GP on April 14[SUP]th[/SUP]. It was hoped this could have been resolved prior to this weekend’s event in Malaysia, however, due to the technical issues involved and the data to be analysed, the FIA will not be ready prior to the date now set. The row over the fuel flow rates incited by the team from Milton Keynes threatens to envelope the sport for some time instead of allowing the world to focusing on the dawn of F1’s new ‘eco-friendly’ era. The problem facing Red Bull now is what to do this weekend. Do they continue to claim the FIA approved fuel flow sensors are faulty and insist upon using their own measurements? Mercedes have confirmed they too were instructed to reduce their fuel flow and complied immediately. Should they choose to persist in defiance of the FIA’s directives and be found in breach of the regulations on April 14[SUP]th[/SUP], the world champion F1` team risks being disqualified from each of the first 3 races of the season. On the other hand, if Red Bull back down and accept the FIA homologated fuel flow sensor for the next 2 races, it raises the question as to why they failed to accept this course of action in Australia. Dietrich Mateschitz challenges the FIA’s stance over the fuel flow metres stating, “The fact is that the federation’s sensor has given inaccurate values since the beginning of the (winter) tests. We can prove that we were within the limits” he informed Vienna daily Kurier. In a repeat of a previous warning that his energy drinks company Red Bull, is not necessarily committed to Formula One long term, Mateschitz adds. “The question is not so much about whether it makes economic sense, but more to do with the sporting value, political influence and the like. We have had it all but on these things from our perspective there is a clear limit to what we can accept. “Formula one should be again what it always has been: the ultimate discipline. It is not there to set new records in fuel consumption, or so you can talk at a whisper during a race and the greatest thrill is the squealing of the tyres. I consider it equally absurd that we are going a second slower than last year and that the junior series GP2 is almost as fast as formula one with a fraction of the budget,” In actuality, GP2 is some way away from the speeds of the current F1 cars, and this gap will dramatically increase during this season. Ferrari have in the past threatened to walk away from Formula 1, though the historic nature of the Italian marque is seen to carry far more weight than the Milton Keynes based team – which was transformed from Stewart/Jaguar by the Austrian billionaires lavish spending.
Not wise to f**k with RBR, Austrian GP is theirs, Toro Rosso, Red bull junior program, pretty much bailed out WRC with regards to sponsorship a few years back, Red Bull itself is as big of a brand as Ferrari and Mercedes in the world view.
Hang on... So Red Bull are basically attempting to blackmail the sport in order to get their own way? Utter bull shine!
Its ever more just turning into points scoring of others teams. If we compare it to recent indiscretions like the Mercedes tyre test where whilst Mercedes were in the wrong it was a strong argument that pointed at least 50% of the blame at the FIA messing up. The outcome of that was a 'free' test for everyone else, so what would be a similar outcome here? Allowing all teams to use none FIA accredited fuel flow meters when it suited them? As far as I know we don't know how much exactly Red Bull claim the FIA meter was out. Others obeyed the FIA (at least Mercedes) despite their own meters saying otherwise so will be interesting to see how the discrepancies compare. Will the rules be amended to using 'no more than 100kg/hr(ish)' If at the end of all this we find the actual value is less than 1kg/hr then I think there should be a grid wise
I think the fact that another team obeyed the same instruction, under the same circumstances renders their appeal useless. They were not alone yet they acted alone in their judgemnet.
Once again, as we don't know what the deficit in performance was there's no way to judge IMO, maybe Mercedes lost 5hp and RBR would've lost 100. If the RBR sensor is well out, and it's been calibrated by the FIA specifically for their cars, and the FIA are saying they have to use the poorly calibrated one that's going to keep them out of the points, what is that saying about the FIA? Lets not forget they're still pissed off with Renault over their demand for more relevant engine technology, and the fact that the last team/driver they want to win, from a commercial point of view, is RBR. I need an emoticon of a dead rotting fish
