City to Poll passholders

Today changed nothing for me.

Ehab admission that the name change will bring benefits in 4 or 5 years is a hope based on the simple fact his father spat his dummy out at the council. The ballot is a result of the realisation that the FA is very likely to say no for the very reason that we export the traditional values of our game all over the world. Its also likely that if the name change goes ahead the demand for legislation will increase.

In our most successful season in the Second tier of English football the Allams increased our turnover by £35,000 whilst our stock fell by over £200,000 (something you understand). I have very little confidence in their ability to successfully manage and market a football club.

The Allams have run out of money. Next season will see a further increase in transfer fees and wages, the costs of maintaining Premier League status are rapidly rising thanks to the money from BT. Given the season we have had now is a good time to sell. Even if the name change goes through I expect them to put the club up for sale.

 

Well you recall wrong then don't.

I said that that CTWD had to engage the flaskers in the West Stand and that the first 1904 chant failed to get any response.
I will never join a protest group.
I do not support the name change but will not join CTWD, less than 10% of the season pass holders have.
Where have I said my views are reliant on what my peers think or say?

I changed my mind about next season, today....why? Because I sat there enjoying the game and I thought, what the ****, do I really want to give this up. I doubt that I will buy a season pass but I will still go.

 

You previously posted that you ‘would only protest if the people around you did’.

I am paraphrasing but you did write words to that effect/meaning.

Are you denying this now?

“ I will never join a protest group”

Is that absolutism purely toward football matters or life in general?

 

Obi,

I know perfectly well why we are having a ballot. I also know the financial position.

Will the Allams sell up? I still think that that will be a bad day for the club.

I believe that the statement in the interview about profits is factually correct. The clubs books will balance this season and there could even be a profit next. This all lends itself to the possibility that the Allams have actually got a handle on the business of running a football club.

 

I said that I stood up and joined in the first couple of 1904 chants only to find that no one else around me did. I watched a well known member of CTWD today and guess what he used to stand and chant, but didn't today.

I cannot join a protest group.

 

I remember what you wrote being different to that (at least on one very specific occasion). But, I'll take you on your word.

"I cannot join a protest group"

How come?

 

For the same reason that I cannot have a county court judgement or be charged with any offence that involves theft or violence.

 

Whether we make a profit next season isn't the issue as you well know. Its about having the cash to improve the squad over the next few seasons to make us a mid-table Premier League team.

Whether the Allams selling up is a bad day for the club depends on the new owner. A FA Cup semi-final and a decent finish in the Premier League puts us in the shop window for any new owner. If we get an owner with more money who's prepared to increase City's share capital and the Allams will be yesterday's news like Nick Barmby. That's football.

 

Any detail on how this will happen?

Email? Post? At the stadium?

If it's left to the fans to do it themselves, I think we all know that thousands will shuffle by, mouths gaped wide open, as if nowt has been asked of them.

I feel it needs to be SHOVED PHYSICALLY in front of pass holders as they enter the stadium at the West Brom game, so we have somewhere near the 19K passholders actually answering the ****er.

If it's left to anywhere else, expect a crap response.

And furthermore, it needs to be a simple question of - Do you support the owner's intentions to rebrand the club Hull Tigers. Yes or No.

Obviously, anyone with any genuine and passionate support of the club and football at large will vote 'NO'.

 

Ehab sounded conciliatory to me. I think he - on behalf of his dad - is looking for a way to save face. Rather than have the FA say "No" which he clearly feels they will, the poll of pass holders gives them the possibility of saying, "Having polled the supporters we have decided to withdraw our name change application." I am hoping the vote is a "No" but also that the Allams will stay and continue to lead the club going forward.

 

That would be good Tiger rev.

I would rather we kept Hull City as our name.

I also dont want the Allams to leave.

In my opinion that is the majority view.

 

Every line of that it just wrong. I've no idea what you're bringing the West stand specifically into it for. If Assem ruins the club because he can't change the name that's his fault for being an awful person and no one else's. If he wants to do that then he shouldn't be anywhere near a football club. I don't think he should be anyway.

But some desperately still want to talk about areas of the ground that don't sing anything. It's ridiculous. The fact remains it's still been the loudest chant at every game since we started doing it, home and away.

Spot on. RE the emboldened he says to some people that the club is already up for sale and always has been since the day he bought it. Yet publicly he says it's up for sale within 24 hours of the fans rejecting his name change. Yet Ehab says they will challenge any decision from the FA. Nothing they say adds up.

 

Egyptians and democratic voting? never heard of that one before. Unless the United Nations send a team to oversee the voting procedure, it will be rigged.

The Allams attitude to the fans reminds me of the case of someone saving a woman from drowning she is grateful but that doesn't give her saviour the right to shag her up the Ar*e whenever he wants

 

If it was "obvious", you wouldn't have to point out to me the obvious choice.

If I were to say "obviously" you should be voting conservative at the next election, you would rightly tell me to go **** myself.

 

I wasn't pointing it out to you, Mark. My posts aren't that personal.

Just pointing out what is OBVIOUSLY true.

 

I do fear though that the vote may not be specifically about the name change, it might be "Do you support the owners in their right to bring more income into the club any way they see fit" or something like this. Unless it is a straight yes or no answer to the name change I think a lot of people will abstain. A bit like when Allam said if you don't like what I say you can have a refund on your season pass. People like me who didn't want the name change but wanted to continue to support the team were obviously not going to hand in their pass but that didn't mean we supported his name change. One thing for sure the Allam's are getting quite good at word play.

I really think there are a lot of supporters out there who don't follow things as closely as some on this board do and will listen to the latest interview and think "Oh yeah, Ehab sounds reasonable, maybe it is a good idea" whereas if they just concentrated on the content a little bit they would see that there is still no concrete evidence that there is a sponsor lined up who wants us to change our name. They should really see the picture as it is now. Successful as Hull City, we are in the Premier League, FA Cup semi and getting global attention, anyone who wants to cotton on to our nickname for advertising can do so because Tigers is also associated with us. Why can't some people just see that, its so simple.

 

I am concerned that their leverage of fear could well creep into this poll too.

We haven't seen much sign over the last few months that their integrity would rule this out, and guarantee it is a simple and fair Yes or No.

I would like confirmation from the FA that the wording has been agreed with them before I am asked to enter my vote on anything.

FA statement please.

 

They're only doing this after announcing that they're going to sell up if the fans don't want their way. Even if the FA say yes to the application, if the fans still oppose, they're going to sell up.

I think it's great because it puts the matter to bed, and stops it dragging on like it has.

 

Alas, you're missing the point.

Firstly, it was a poor and badly-timed attempt at a witty riposte to "City till we die".

Secondly, unless you are granted euthanasia then you are unlikely to have any power over the timing of your own death which renders your "positive" reading redundant.

Thirdly, why would you require Assam Allam's blessing to die anyway?