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The Official 2014 Australian GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Mar 5, 2014.

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2014 Turbo Revolution. All Change? Maybe?

Poll closed Mar 14, 2014.
  1. Sebastian Vettel

    4.2%
  2. Daniel Ricciardo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Kimi Raikkonen

    2.1%
  4. Fernando Alonso

    10.4%
  5. Kevin Magnussen

    4.2%
  6. Jenson Button

    6.3%
  7. Lewis Hamilton

    45.8%
  8. Nico Rosberg

    25.0%
  9. Romain Grosjean

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Pastor Maldonado

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Other (Oh yes...many will click here)

    2.1%
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  1. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Like hell with Seb IMO, he practically was going at a stop when he got to Kimi!
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Not a bad grid for tomorrow.

    Alonso, Kimi & Seb will have a fight on their hands to get to the front and there are some drivers who are probably ahead of where they should be.

    Great debuts for Magnussen and Kyvatt.

    Still going to be a boring season?
     
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  3. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112935

    Renault says an engine software issue caused Sebastian Vettel's troubled Australian Grand Prix qualifying session.

    While his new team-mate Daniel Ricciardo qualified second in Melbourne, reigning Formula 1 world champion Vettel will start only 13th.

    Renault confirmed a software issue meant Vettel suffered from a lack of power, and the German said the issue had been present since the morning practice session.

    "This morning was still OK but definitely a step down, and then this afternoon when it started to rain I was struggling a lot with driveability and it made my life pretty difficult," said Vettel.

    "I made it round, but I struggled a lot when going on the power, so driveability was down.

    "We programmed it to be like yesterday, if not a little bit better.

    "There was a different set-up and a software update, but with modern Formula 1 there's a lot of software programming and it's not easy for drivers to understand what's going on."

    Why Red Bull are back in the game

    Although Red Bull's Australian GP has been generally encouraging after its difficult winter, Vettel suspects reliability will still be a challenge on race day.

    "We still haven't done a race simulation or a race distance in one go," he said.

    "I think we have improved reliability compared to testing because we're able to put parts on the car with zero mileage. But there's still a long way to go.

    "The biggest relief yesterday was the performance, but we know that on reliability there are still things to do.

    "We're both trying to see the chequered flag and we know the car's quick, so we want to finish as high up as possible, but priority number one is to finish the race."
     
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  4. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    Why the hell were people booing Vettel again this morning? This is motor racing not football. It's moronic. Now he gets booed for winning and not doing well. I'm not a fan of his but this is just not right.

    Have also been watching Hamilton's onboard pole lap. These new cars look incredibly hard to drive in those conditions with all that torque. Amazing to think that such a twitchy lap was pole.
     
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  5. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    And Alonso as well now:

    Connor ‏@cmckinleyF1 2m
    Fernando Alonso is under investigation by the stewards for allegedly impeding Esteban Gutierrez at turn 1 during Q1 #F1
     
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  6. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    It's a group mind of identity of Australian and British individuals losing themselves to become a new individual of created morals as Hamilton and Ricciardo fans desire to beat Vettel. They feel anonymous and so have a lack of empathy, in result standards go out of the window and aggression rises naturally and hardly feeling accountable for what they do. It's clear they do not like Vettel as he is a rival, clear sports mentality in any form of sport so I consider it normal now.

    In short by themselves they wouldn't say **** to his face, the crowd surroundings just allow them to act like dickheads so as to conform as an individual or "fit in". Sometimes people don't know they're doing it, they just go with it.

    *studies social psychology*
     
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  7. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Booooooooo!!!

    I think that snobbish attitude turns people away from F1 (probably to your taste, so you can read the telegraph between laps in peace).

    If we put aside the fact an Aussie crowd probably won't like the guy who pissed on team orders to beat an Aussie racer, then we are left with some hilarious jibing. You realise you are in effect booing the booers, just in a more verbose manner, thus you are a hypocrite of the highest order.
     
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  8. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1 now
    No action taken over Vettel's alleged yellow flag infringement. Awaiting news on Alonso for blocking and Magnussen for ignoring yellows
     
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  9. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Have you even made it out of first year? That is pseudo-psychology at best <ok>
     
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  10. allsaintchris.

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    Just seen Vettel's hand gesture as he crossed the line in Q2.

    Showing frustration already.
     
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  11. allsaintchris.

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    It's not just British and Australian fans who have this mindset. Spanish & Italian's are even worse at jibing a driver who is not their own, and also do it in a more cowardly way sometimes too.
     
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  12. 51LV3R8RR04

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    It's social identity theory and they do have a lot of support with regards to the London riots and sport crowds in which a crowd of people have a goal in focus and that this new identity has morals and standards in which the crowd set on how to act for the individuals. Crowds are very influential areas for people, if the cause is sound for the individual they will become part of it and act it out as well. The extra aggression from crowds comes mostly from the lack of accountability, so you wont see Sebastian Vettel getting out of the car and signaling somebody out for booing him and making him/her **** bricks.

    I'm in my 3rd year of psychology and just started with social psychology but take it as you will with various evidence.
     
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  13. eddie_squidd

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    I don't think it's snobbish to expect audiences to be respectful of all the competitors. Believe it or not, in the majority of top level sport this is the norm. Can you imagine booing at Wimbledon or a major golf championship? The offenders would be chucked out. It's generally only in football where it is normal to behave with such disrespect.

    That whole bit about booing the booers was ridiculous and you know it. Also, booing being hilarious jibing suggests some sort of witty banter, which it certainly wasn't.
     
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  14. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong I agree, but it's Australia so you expect a lot of Aussies and ex pats from Britain living there.
     
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  15. 2xwdcslayer

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    Yeah, if he had got an extra lap in like Lewis did over Nico, as I presume the track was drying out but still a great drive by Daniel. I think in the dry the Red Bull is still about 6tenths off the Mercs which is far better than what what Christian Horner was was predicting.
     
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  16. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Was tongue in cheek ;)
     
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  17. nh-f1

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    [video=youtube;nSa8iUeubw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSa8iUeubw8[/video]

    Mark Webber is a pretty good commentator!
     
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  18. BrightLampShade

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    That quali was more exciting than expected. Few drivers I liked failed but overall was pretty fun :)
     
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  19. RoadRunner

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    Yeah his commentary across all of today on Aus coverage was actually really insightful.
     
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  20. 51LV3R8RR04

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    I think it's just the new generation of F1 fans coming through, it is obvious there are 2 different factions on how a fan should act while on track. And to be honest the guys not booing and cheering failure will very likely not be heard over the rest, let alone spoken about in the media. It ebbs and flows through different generations but at least the crowd holds restraint with regards to cheering injury, or I hope so anyway. Then again maybe it will one day and the current new f1 fans will complain about that rather than the booing of one driver we are doing now.

    Crowds don't hold much empathy as it doesn't classify as human, but rather another ideal that has it's own laws and standards away from social norms of society in which we fill on a daily basis.
     
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