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OT - Malaysia Airlines loses contact with plane flying to Beijing

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Busy Being Headhunted, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    I think TF will have some interest in this

    I would assume at this time, everybody on board would sadly of died
     
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  2. Hooped Dreams

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    http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA2701C20140308?irpc=9
     
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  3. Hooped Dreams

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    So it did crash, feel for their families
     
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  4. Sooperhoop

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    Makes the problems of a football club seem rather mundane...
     
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  5. Azmi

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  6. Kampala Hoop

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    I dont think ETOPS has anything to do with a plane being over water, its just a maximum time for a twin engine aircraft to get to a suitable airport if it needs to land - though admittedly this does most commonly occur when taking into account sea crossings. I think something like 200-300 minutes almost covers the whole world. The 777 has an amazing safety record, will be worrying to see what happened. Thoughts with those lost.
     
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  7. ForestG

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    Two passengers flying with stolen passports.

    If a plane goes down from 35000 feet, where contact was lost, the sea is just as hard as land.
     
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  8. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    This is becoming more bizarre by the day. Has anyone on here got any theories as to what has happened?
     
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  9. Queenslander!!

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    from what I've been reading, Australia are co-ordinating the search for it and the general belief in this part of the world is that if lost altitude to avoid being picked up by radar.
    they think that it was taken over and could have been fown to a diffrent airport..

    At least that was yesterdays theory..not read anything yet today

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/22048564/missing-plane-spotted-over-maldives/

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/22038682/search-difficult-and-over-deep-water-amsa/

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/22048613/could-mh370-have-been-swapped-mid-air/
     
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  10. Flyer

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    Best one ive seen is the front wheels caught fire, they changed course to another runway, they climbed up to 45k feet to try and put out the fire but eventually the fire destroyed the transponders and the smoke killed everyone and it ran out of fuel hours later.
    It would also account for lots of people seeing a plane fly very low past the maldives.

    Where it gets weird is that there was some special cargo on board and 50 seats were removed for it, also there were 20 defence contractors on board.
     
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  12. Azmi

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    You got a link for those 50 seats removed? Malaysia claims the cargo was mangosteens apparently although to remove seats for mangosteens when there are cargo planes available seems a little strange, would imagine they would be palleted and unable to be placed in passenger cabin.

    As for the 20 Freescale contractors who would want them dead and not getting to China? US, Russia, Israel, UK, India, Japan...?
     
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  13. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    Still cannot understand about lack of mobile phone contact...it apparently flew at fairly low level over land for some of the latter part of the missing part of the flight...Some people said it flew up to 45,000 feet to kill the passengers...any truth in that Stainsy???
    Any one think they are still alive
    ?
     
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    The wheels wouldn't have been down would they?
     
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  15. Flyer

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    no, it would have been the lack of oxygen that they thought would put out the fire.
     
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  16. brb

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    The lack of communication from the pilots I can understand, its how they are trained. Also they may not be able to communicate with face (air) masks on. What I'm still not understanding is this lack of cell phone - mobile contact, especially on something the size of a 777. I can't see why someone would want 250 dead passengers on land. I assume they are dead due to the non existent reporting on any form of technical communication from passengers with personal devices. Terrorists on board a 777 would have a hard job taking control of the entire aircraft and all its passengers on something this size, so instantly. So the only way passengers would become disabled so quickly is through the cabin pressure. The plane could justifiably have flown low if it had technical problems, because it would have been deemed a safer height to fly at.

    It's surely got to be at the bottom of the Ocean. Although it all adds to its mystery that someone was clever enough to takeover and hide such a craft, it surely has to be pure fantasy or hope.

    RIP
     
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  17. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    This is wrong Flyer...one...if the wheels had caught fire, requiring a pilot action...they would have mayday-ed...
    secondly, the act of climbing would have been seen at least initially by the transponders. When they were turned off...everything was exactly on course and a OK!

    The transponders were TURNED off only a few minutes/poss seconds after the co-pilot said good night....and moved into Vietnam airspace.
    That exact timing is VERY suspicious...as there is always a lag in taking control...gave them a few extra minutes before their loss was noted.

    Will some one explain...the lack of mobile phone chatter, if there was danger/hijacking...there was a lot of mobile phone chatter on the 9/11 planes...and as I said earlier...they are said to have flown low over land during the "missing" flight time

    EDIT Thanks brb for explaination...not quite convinced yet
     
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  18. Flyer

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    You don't think carrying 3-4 tons of fruit by air is unusual?

    It would probably cost more than the fruit are worth.
    I think the seats were removed to bring down the weight considering the massive load, it would have still been in the hold.
     
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  19. Flyer

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    I don't know the timing but they did go to 45k feet, the only two reasons are to put out a fire or kill the passengers, have they released how long they were at that height, more than 15 mins and the passengers emergency oxygen would have run out. If it was a short time, then it was a fire as the oxygen won't deploy in the case of a fire so they'd have to come down very soon.

    The transponders could have been damaged by the fire.

    Nothing makes 100% total sense because it would have been solved if it did.

    Also, flight engineers have said they'd turn off all systems one by one if there as an electrical fire, that would account for everything, change of course, turning off tracking and the change in height, also seeing the plane fly by the Maldives.
     
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  20. Azmi

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    There are some theorising that failure to find the plane might have something to do with Boeing's share price. After their lithium batteries fiasco, 777 cockpit fire (on the ground) and quite possibly more I don't know about they may well be fearing the competition. The market for planes is growing and changing, apart from Airbus who have most to gain there's Embraer, Bombardier, Sukhoi and more. Flew on an Embraer to Europe last year and frankly it seemed just as decent as Boeing or Airbus even if "Made in Brazil".

    Boeing have much to lose if the plane is found and shown to be defective. How much the US itself would lose in prestige who knows.

    All the gossip here: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-303.html
     
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