Alright chaps alot has been made over the last week or so about the wages of the players at the club and seeming to suggest we cannot bring in a few quality players because of the amount we spend on wages. Is this just a cover up? we have lost Bent, Mensah, Onuoha, Muntari, Welbeck, Zenden and Herderson from last season and only brought in Sessegnon, personally IMO if we can shift on Nos, McCartney, Kilgallon and Angeleri we will be ok
I agree, I made a similar point the other day that the reduction in wages down to Keane duds and generous offers he made to sub par veterans such as Nos clogging up the wage bill. If we got rid of these unused players then I feel we would be less constrained in buying new ones. Perhaps Short doesn't feel he wants to invest less, just that we need wholesale changes in the form of moving on high wage, low game time players first.
I feel that Keane has got a lot to answer for regarding the financial restraints that now govern our transfer policy.
The problem is shifting them, Mcartney still has 2 years left on his contract, Killgalon probably the same if not more, and seemingly they havnt exactly set the world on fire whilst they have been out on loan, so getting anyone to come in and get them will be hard going. (and whether they even want to go with a wage cut). Contracts are not worth jack all untill it suits the player, like in these instances.
Ok. We dont want them, make an offer on their contracts. If no-one wants them give them 66% of the residue on their basic contract. Thank you and tara. Imperative to clear the decks at whatever cost. never wanted Nyron in red and white stripes, nor KilGallon. Plus, we take this brave move, it will scare the c**p out of Ricco, Anton, Steed to step up to the plate and produce! REGULARLY! Cruel to be kind. Must try harder - as my school report always said. x
So and this is with Mcartney on 40,000 a week, we pay him off and it will cost us 2,745,600 (thats at 66% btw) Nos and Killgallon are probably on less but you are still probably looking at 1-2 million each, so thats 5 million to get rid of 3 players, we may as well just pay them their wages and hope someone comes and gets them sooner rather than later.
Point taken, but do you think anyone will be in for them? If a club comes in, will they go? Will we have to contribute to wages anyway. I still think just get rid, otherwise we pay 100% wages for the remainder of the contract. x
Have to agree, it's a double edged sword, the club's that would have any interest if any, would be outside the prem; Would they prepared to pay (1) The Fee (2) The Wages, would the player be happy taking a cut in wage's and drop down a division. What you can get is a situation where they are just happy taking the wages and dragging out their contract, unfortunately.
Yes but you pay the wages over the 2 years, lets take Mcartney as we sort of know what he is on, £40,000 a week so we have heard and 2 years of his contract. We pay him off now, with all his wages, thats 4,160,000 66% is 2,745,600, lets say we have to keep him for another year, then next year someone wants to buy him, so 1 year at 40,000 is 2,080,000 lets say we get 1.5 million for him (a newly promoted side may come in for him in the next year or 2) then thats only a 500,000 outlay over 1 season, if we just said bye bye, it would be a 3 million outlay, and if wages are the problem how on earth will that help any (we are still paying the wages, but up front, instead of weekly, so its even worse).
Keane bought crap and paid them like superstars. All people seem to remember is he got us promoted. Yes he did, so have many with far less. What's Keans legacy? A squad full of players we can't/very hard to shift due to there wages. And where were we the day he left. Bottom three.
Over the last 5 years my opinion is we have done everything the expensive way. Top fees for mediochre players, relevantly top wages for a failing team, BUT Money has come in - justifiably for apparently players going out. We have made good profit on some. My argument is use some of this profit to absorb the cost of moving on the - lets face it - dross who will never play 1st team football for us again. Lets look at Swansea, or Blackpool last season or Burnley the year before. Prime candidates to but our squad players to try to keep them up. Err............. can only think of Reid going. The others may go out on loan but they know where the bread is buttered and always come back. Buy them out and let others see we aren't a meal ticket any more. Expensive? Its all relative. x
McCartney is far and away the first who we need to get rid of, followed shortly by Nos (bless him) and others such as Kilgallon (Unless Bruce actually does have a plan for him). Those 3 alone going could free up room for at least one top class player's wages.
That is the bottom line, folks. Maybe, just maybe, one or two of them would accept a lump sum discount to buy out their contracts. If they thought a Championship club would hire them and make up the difference + the chance of 1st team football. It hasn't happened. So it probably will not happen. Don't you think SNQ has not tried that? Of course he has.
Sorry but I can't see offering 66% of their contracts would work. I think if most people were in that position they would say they wanted 100% and who can blame them. Especially if they thought the club was desperate to move them out. If the club wouldn't agree to that I think they would just sit back and wait until someone offered to take them on loan.
simple fact is we don't pay enough to satisfy the money thirsty, greedy bastards, aka. top notch footballers. bent sags for ex. you want top players, but safc will not be held to ransom.