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Pardew = Passion? Discuss......

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  1. pgakev

    pgakev Active Member

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    It was wrong, we all know that. I for one cannot recall an opposing manager headbutting an opposing player, although I am sure it must have happened before, but probably not on an international stage like the Premier League. But, I love passionate players and why cant I apply the same love to managers?
    The guy is willing to get crazy when it comes to our team. How many of us have not done the same when having arguments with other fans, albeit we have not felt the need to headbutt our conversational opponent. I bet the players are having a bit of a laugh at his expense on the training pith as we speak, but, they know that they have a manager that is so committed to them and our club that goes a bit loopy every now and then. Fairplay to the guy. It was not a headbutt as we all know it, if it was, the guy would be spitting teeth and nasal bones afterwards. PASSION, its what football is all about. As my Dad said afterwards, " If only our players and Board could show that level of passion towards the club, without the violence, then we would be flying this year." I am starting to like the guy now, yes, he is a nutter sometimes, but are`nt we all occassionaly. He obviously gets so involved in the game that sometimes he says and does things that he possibly should`nt do or say. I think we all have been guilty of that crime in the past, I know I have, and have regretted it almost instantly it happened. It was wrong, it happened but hey move on. There are worse things happening in the world for us to get upset about than something as ludicrous and funny as this!!! Off You Go, slaughter me to Death, as some of you will, but some will have a similar opinion about the whole thing as me. This is just another chapter in the unbelievable roller-coaster ride of being a Toon supporter!!!
     
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  2. Travelsick07

    Travelsick07 Well-Known Member

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    Mad Bash'ion indeed.

    I'm over it, it was silly but it was just one of those things. A 3 match touchline ban should suffice. IMO it's less serious than managers rants at the refs in the past, most of all some of SAFs behaviour or Benitez' fact rant bascially accusing the league of corruption.
     
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  3. YankMag

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    I said this a few days ago. I think this should increase pardew's stock with the fans. I think he knows what it means to be manager of this club. Lets be honest, that was not a headbutt. The FA are just a ton of pussy's. Pardew has gotten us into europe, and he might do that again this year. Oh, and we have a net spend of negative 45 million during that time. Can you imagine where we'd be if we had a net spend of positive 45 million? Hopefully fat mike gives it a shot this summer.
     
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  4. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    I disagree completely. How is attempting to nut someone, in the weakest way imaginable, an expression of passion?! There's no psychologically relevant excuse for what was clearly just another example of Pards seeing red because he was pushed and consequently his blood was up.

    If someone pushed you in a pub, and you drunkenly swung a fist, is that passion? Of course it isn't! What we have in the Pardew headbutt = passion case, is a completely erroneous understanding of behaviour, cognition and emotional response. Why not just hire a prehistoric ancestor, if primitive and unsophisticated responses is what you wish from a Newcastle United manager?

    I'm not saying he isn't passionate, or has not exhibited passion in the past. What I'm saying is that he's clearly got to mid-life without the ability to control his emotions sufficiently to not make an arse of himself and us in public. Whether that is down to personality-type or whatever is fundamentally irrelevant.
     
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  5. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I agree completely
     
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  6. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    He isn't a Geordie you know, he's a Cockney so allowances have to be made for him.

    Or do they?
     
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  7. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    I'm sat on the fence..
















    Looking into tjpf's bedroom.
     
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  8. Blacker-than-Knight

    Blacker-than-Knight Slainte

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    I disagree completely would have sufficed.
     
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  9. pgakev

    pgakev Active Member

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    With which opinion matey?? You cant just say I agree completely,with no reference to what you agree completely with. Take a stand, man the barricades, and declare your opinions from a high!!
     
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  10. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Discuss?
     
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  11. pgakev

    pgakev Active Member

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    This fence that a lot of people are currently sitting on must be bending under your weight badly!! Take a stand, their is nothing wrong with agreeing or nor agreeing with someones opinion,,, .. Take a stand and say your bit and have done with it!! My skin is very thick, a bit like Pardew`s....lol..
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    To be honest his passion has never been in question to me. He is like a fan and it boils over sometimes. We have seen it before both with unsavoury incidents, and other more light hearted ones like jumping in the crowd. If we are gonna take all the characters out of football and suck the passion from the game, then it'll die a death. He certainly needs to show more self control and pick his moments to let out the inner beast <laugh>

    That wasn't the passion I want to see. It was a stupid thing to do and he should know better than to react like that. No doubt at all that Meyler shouldn't be going round pushing managers either. Hugely disrespectful. Both are setting a bad example for youngsters. Don't get me wrong, despite what the media would like you to believe, for me this is not gross misconduct or a sackable offence. In my opinion you can't apply normal working rules to professional sport. If you do then you'll soon have a very crap event. People need to understand that emotions run high and these players/managers/coaches will cross the line now and again. Adrenalin does funny things to people. Anybody who has even played club level sport will know that at various moments, normally calm decent men/women lose it and behave out of character. I have played football with loads of lads who away from the game were gentle as they come, only to turn into a angry feisty lunatic on the pitch. You just have accept sport for what it is and how it effects people, and contain the disciplinary within it.

    A 4 game touchline ban and a fine would suffice. Its been blown out of all proportion by the do gooders and leeches.
     
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  13. Alan Partridge

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    1-3 up and cruising when it happened. By then he should have been relaxed and looking forward to an evening in his jimjams with Mrs Pards in front of the telly. As such he should have just laughed off Maylor's push. So nothing to do with passion in my opinion, just a short fuse.
     
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  14. YankMag

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    The question at the top isn't "Pardew= angry twat?" though.

    Say your at a bar and someone goes and feels up your woman? You punch him in the face? Is that Passion or anger?
     
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    Passion is something that arouses great enthusiasm. What you've described is again, not passion, it would be sexual jealousy and a primitive desire to promote yourself as an alpha male.
     
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    Firstly it was not a head butt but he deserves everything he gets and I suppose a long ban is the next best thing to him being sacked
     
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    Nottingham Forest manager Billy Davies has been given a five-match touchline ban and a £9,000 fine for using abusive language towards a referee.

    Applying logic Pardew may not see dug out again this season, what with his previous.
     
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  18. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Now we have Don Hutchinson (prize bellend and general ****) throwing his bit in, claiming maybe Pards should consider anger management. <laugh> Or maybe Don, just maybe, he just sit down more during matches you silly f**ktard. He'll get a big ban disproportionate to the offence because it is the easy thing for the FA to do. Impossible for them to be objective now after all the hullabaloo from the media. Plus part of me always believes the FA is a very self serving organisation who will jump at any opportunity for a good PR story i.e. "FA lays down the law with Pardew"
     
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  19. Howe's about that then?

    Howe's about that then? Well-Known Member

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    I think he is passionate about the club but not because of a "headbutt", all that proves is that he needs to handle his emotions a bit better. That being said, it wasn't a headbutt, he shouldn't of done it but it wasn't a headbutt..... you'd never win a bar brawl with that! Also, hate the way pundits are saying it was unprovoked when he was clearly pushed.
    Players and managers shouldn't be putting their heads in at all but until someone lands a full on headbutt then its all a fuss over nothing!
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    We should erect one of these for Pards outside SJP:

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