tbh tend to agree with him, the board and Sir Alex should take some of the blames Sir Alex should had fixed the club issues before handling it to Moyes we had alike of Pogba and we recall Scholes from retirement instead, we had many options to buy great young players like we did with CR or Rooney, but we rather went for old players like RVP or too young players who cost less who Chelsea and city were not interested on them too. I had the feeling, that Sir Alex wanted to win the last title desperately to end his career in a spectacular fashion, so he opted for the experience to win the title before he retire. the board itself, acted cheaply and never did support the manager properly (problem become worst when key players got injured too), and that led to some bad results at start tbh, which kind killed the team confidence and possibly even players trust on Moyes as a manager imo Moyes need to have the full support till he build the team he want and restore the confidence back
We need a new manager. Keane is the last person to have an opion as well. Hentends to try and buy loads of new players at whichever club hes at and get them relegated. And oh aye, blame Fergie, the uttercunt. How dare he leave moyes with a team of proven winners. How ****ing dare he. **** the board as well, they only backed him in the summer while he and ed ****ed it all up. What a bunch of ****s.
He has a point and like shwan says SAF should have kept Pogba (and Morrison) so that the new manager could decide if the moved on or not. If I remember UIR you rate the squad and feel that Moyes is doing a bad job but most disagree, the squad is not that good and Moyes needs time to make it his own, at that point at least he lives or dies by his own choices.
Most do not disagree. Most united fans want moyes out and most united fans feel moyes is letting the players down. Hes even losing the matvhday fans, who if you speak to them, support moyes as a sign of how good our fans are not because they actually support moyes. Outside tge ground they are very much anti moyes like most united fans. The boos in old Trafford are getting louder towards moyes as well. The squad is in need of tweeking. It is a good squad. 3rd best in the league for me. Few if any would have disagreeD in July. We haven3 number 10s who would stary for most sides. We play a crossing game despite this. It is how Moyes wants us to play, its how hes always played. Moyes is the issue here, him and his backroom staff. Tye players are paid to follow tge managers instruction, which they have. Look what its done to united. Were a ****ing joke. Were a ****ing joke because of moyes.
Breathe UIR! Breathe! Want a brown bag? Its a combination of both, just as Man United have to get used to a new manager, so does the manager have to get used to a new club. Moyes will probably come good if given time. Its whether he will get that time though as football today is very harsh.
Bodanki and Matth in agreement shocker Seriously though, I think you will just have to accept a couple of mediocre seasons until Moyes has had time to build his own squad. Will it pay off? I dont know, I have no crystal ball, just like everyone else. What was easy to predict, and what I did predict, is that this squad would struggle without Fergie at the helm, and I was right. He needs until the end of next season really.....its just just whether fans and the Glazer's are prepared to give him the time.
Fergie was the greatest manager in british football and he turned United into the biggest club in English football and one of the biggest in the world. Having said that, that does not mean he was perfect. He made mistakes too. It is clear to everyone that he needed to reinforce and improve the midfield. He didn't or couldn't do it. And he left Moyes to do it and he didn't and couldn't it either in the summer. Yes we walked the league last season. First we had fergie and two we had RVP and Rooney fit and well. A team of proven winners...with Fergie. Anyhting else is pure speculation. This season RVP and Rooney have been out for many matches. They covered our deficiencies in midfield and defence very well. Ed woodward is **** and should be replaced. He should have been more helpful in getting the players we needed in the summer.
Am I alone in thinking that fergie deliberatly avoided certain investments in the squad due to his awareness that he would be soon to retire so allow a new manager a chance to build his own team and be in a position to sort out the squad as he saw fit. Either that or he couldnt find or get the players he wanted, either way the squad needs to be thinned and have an injection of new blood. Personally I think moyes is the man to do this, and I think that if he has his own team that he can mould to his own ideas and plans we will be right back towards where we would like to be. I am confident the summer transfer window will be an interesting one
well said is unbelievable that UIR blame Moyes for everything and think the solution is by sacking him .. like this will be the long term solution
Roy Keane is bang on the money. You need 5-6 world class players. Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool look streets ahead of you at the moment.
Probably this hopefully that. Sounds promising. Basically he might suddenly become great so all we can do is hope because moyes certainly hasnt shown a single reason that warrants this faith.
agree on City and chelsea but not Arsenal or Liverpool tbh tbh if liverpool had Suarez or Arsenal missing Giroud just like we missed RVP combined with both clubs having new CBs every match like we did, I doubt they would had been as impressive both clubs got lucky with injuries and the fact that they kept their managers had give them extra edge over us.. but that don't mean they are ahead of us
Suarez missed like the first 6 games of Liverpools season, and I believe Giroud missed a similar amount of games through injury this season, and like UIR said, both teams coped okay and are where they are in the league.
Check the stats, we never had Suarez for the first 5 games and were top of the league, we have also this season had Sturridge out injured, Agger and Enrique have also been on the injury list, our squad is smaller than Utd so don't blame injuries for Utd's **** season, there's more to it than that. We are above Utd on merit so lap it up monsieur.
I agree with him, though was it really down to SAF, or was it more down to the board? After all I can't see SAF refusing to spend money if it was there, so maybe it was the board not making it available. We should have been the ones forking out the 30+ millions for the Hazards, rather than making do with the cheaper option Kagawa, we should have also been going in for the Auguero's too rather than promoting the second coming of Emile Heskey aka Danny Welbeck. We have been cutting corners, buying cheap players who aren't quite top class, and promoting average youth players like Cleverley and Welbeck. The board are obviously finally realising that to survive at the top without a genius like SAF, you need to be competing with Chelsea and City for the signatures of the 30 million+ players. The problem we have now though, is that we are now a less attractive option than those 2 clubs, as CL football is as good as gone for next season. So we're going to have to pay even more than we would of had, had we invested the money when we where the best team in the country
It would make Fergie a two-faced twat if you're correct about the finances for buying players being down to the Glazers greed rather than Fergie seeing no value in the market, he has consistently backed the owners and their spending policy. He now mingles with them and the other boardroom hangers on a nice salary, reward for his loyalty to the Glazers perhaps?
It wouldn't surprise me, why on earth would he care about value in the market? It's not his money after all. The Glazers are at the route of all our troubles, they have been sucking the club dry of its transfer funds for years, and have been relying on SAFs brilliance to keep the club at the top. If it wasn't for those ****s we'd have been spending like Chelsea and Man City, and unlike those 2 it would be all money the clubs actually earnt. We would be in a league of our own in England, and probably would have dominated in Europe, in a similar fashion to Peps Barcelona. We did do pretty well in Europe making back to back finals, but with the extra money that the Glazers have pretty much stolen from the club we'd have been even more dominant, and may well have equaled or bettered Liverpools haul of 5 by now
