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Bony wants quick exit

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by roofjack_22, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. PaGaNsWaN

    PaGaNsWaN Active Member

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    As long as he is paid whatever renumaration is agreed on his contract in this situation, there will be no case to answer.
     
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  2. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for proving my point kieran , guys like Rodgers couldn't bring Routledges talent to the forefront , thanks buddy !
     
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  3. KieranDaviesSCFC

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    10 assists was not good enough mate. And DG10 missed another 10. Glad BR went to Liverpool tbh.
     
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  4. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I agree, as long as there is no case for constructive dismisal! "The notion of constructive dismissal most often arises from a fundamental breach of the term of trust and confidence implied in all contracts of employment. In order to avoid such a breach "an employer must not, without reasonable or proper cause, conduct himself in a manner calculated or likely to destroy or seriously damage the relationship of trust and confidence between the employer and the employee."Whilst a breach can be of the implied term of trust and confidence, a fundamental breach of any of the express or implied terms of a contract of employment is sufficient". ..................<ok>
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    We wont pay him anywhere near £4.5 million. he will be lucky to just get his contract paid up....
     
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  6. LNB

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    If ML is taking legal action, then to me, compensation payment has not been made.
     
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  7. PaGaNsWaN

    PaGaNsWaN Active Member

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    That would be difficult and its to easy to bring a counterclaim.
     
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  8. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Well of cousre it hasn't been made, hell the club would need reasonable time.

    The total compensation figure to these sacked managers reaches a staggering £420 million. The average pay-out to a sacked manager in the Premier League or Football League since September 1996 totals approximately £500,000. This average figure, however, relates only to managers and were we to look at compensation packages paid to backroom staff such as assistant managers and coaches, it is estimated that the average figure would easily surpass the £1 million mark.

    Critics from within the football industry suggest that inadequate employment practices are the cause of the massive compensation payments. The high payments reflect the fact that football is a highly lucrative industry but also relate to football clubs having breached a number of employment regulations in dismissing a manager and having no real alternative but to award the individual a large amount of compensation. There are also a number of examples at least 'sloppy' use of fixed term employment contracts which have led to the need for clubs to pay out disproportionate sums upon termination.


    Link: http://www.farleys.com/blog/compensation-payments-to-sacked-football-managers-reach-420-million-
     
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  9. neathjack

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    Why not?
     
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  10. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Because of wishful thinking , the 4.5 is written in stone , anything else Laudrup will get will be gravy , complements of our frugal chairman .
     
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  11. PaGaNsWaN

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    Anyway all ML has said is that he is seeking legal advise.
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Sacking a manager is a very expensive business, that is one of the reasons that our Board have worked in the way they have with both Sousa and Laudrup, with Sousa they got lucky, with Laudrup they didn't, but then it will be justified if we retain our Premier League £70 Million pot of gold. As an example AVB recieved £11 Million compensation from Chelsea, then shortly after recieved another £4.5 Million from Spurs? so you can see why Huw Jenkins works the way he does. I've pulled the info below from Sporting inteligence site, which gives some insight on the cost and reasons:


    This is the most extreme example of why firing and hiring with little apparent discernment is costly. But it is evident that the selection and appointment of the right manager is vital to a club&#8217;s short to medium term success, both on the pitch and financially. Players have a multitude of analysts from the disciplines of coaching, sports science, psychology and nutrition tracking their every move. So why not develop a form of analysis to gauge managerial performance? The research outlined in this article aims to achieve exactly that. A comprehensive literature review was undertaken to examine material relating to managerial dismissals and change within a sporting and business context.

    Recent research showed that the average football manager in England lasts a little over two years in a job position. This is mirrored in professional US sport with head coaches averaging less than 2.5 years in their job. Managers are usually dismissed for either poor on-field performance, a breakdown in relations with club directors/owners, and / or increasing media pressure to deliver. In the modern game, spending power has become increasingly important for a club to be successful. However, there are contrasting views on whether sacking a football manager leads to improved team performance on average.

    Of nine studies scrutinised from six countries, five of those nine &#8211; from England and Spain &#8211; stated that replacing a manager does improve a club&#8217;s on-field performance while four studies &#8211; from Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy and Germany &#8211; found that hiring a new manager did not improve team performance on average.

    The results from England suggested that a club&#8217;s short-term performance increases when a new manager is appointed which may explain the rationale behind relegation-threatened sides changing their manager towards the end of the season.
     
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  13. roofjack_22

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    Unleash the lawyers , not good !
     
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  14. KieranDaviesSCFC

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    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df1MSWblX6I[/video]

    They named the band after you after reading one of your posts on Not606.

    You're as consistent as Dwight Tiendalli when playing for the Swans fair play to you.
     
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  15. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Well folks , seeing as we know Bony wasn't pointing at the ground as if saying he was staying, and his silence on the issue is deafening , I don't think things look good come summer , and not just him either. This thread has been a bone of contention with some , and I've made my feelings known , I'm not opposed to closing it if the mods wish , cheers
     
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  16. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I don't see why it should be closed, there is a debate going on, could change the title though to 'Bony's going nowhere'.............<cheers>
     
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  17. KieranDaviesSCFC

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    Alternatively, add SportsDirect News! next to the initial headline.

    [video=youtube;ekQ_Ja02gTY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY[/video]

    roofjack_22!
     
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  18. KieranDaviesSCFC

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    Huw Jenkins you can't be serious man. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS! :cheesy:
     
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  19. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>..............Nice one kieran
     
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  20. swanseaandproud

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    Pay laudrup off with some of that rubbery Edam cheese, They like that sort of thing..<laugh>
     
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