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How much longer should Ainsworth have to turn it around?

Discussion in 'Wycombe' started by mowgli1960, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. josewwfc

    josewwfc Well-Known Member

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    I was there on Saturday and there was a definite sense on inevitablilty within the crowd. on Saturday fundamentally he didn't do a lot wrong, but the team didn't have any quality and perhaps gaz is just too tactically inept. Accrington is a must win, 2 two ways about it. if we don't beat them I expect ainsworth will be sacked
     
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    Complete opposite to 2011 then I went that day even though Bury scored first we were never going to lose that game
     
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  3. Cardiff-Wycombe

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    Is he in the top 30 of longest serving managers in the league yet? He must be close! I do think he has a lot to learn tactically but hope we stay up so he can learn it with us as I like the energy he gives (or did do). Unfortunately if it gets to 10 games left and we haven't gone on a run, then we will need someone else in to change things up and get us enough points out of the 30 to stay up. Which hopefully should be enough time. Oh they must be experienced .
     
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  5. Guywanderer

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    Two more games to save his job :emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  6. josewwfc

    josewwfc Well-Known Member

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    this should be it. I cant think of another club who would give a manager this long on a poor run of form, waddock and taylor certainly never got this. I love gaz to pieces but I think its now time to leave so we can remember his time at Wycombe as keeping us up alst season and being a superb captain, not as the man who relegated us out of the football league
     
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  7. Ron

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    It occurs to me that if the football is so bad, how much better will another manager be able to do? Are the players good enough? Listening to the commentaries I get the impression that sometimes we have a few players who are really good and that we play some good football - for parts of a match. Also, can anyone think of a manager who is available, and affordable, that could come in and do the job?

    When Waddock arrived, he was magic but he was sacked because he wasn't getting results.

    When Gaz took over, he was magic. He's going/gone the same way.

    There is a pattern here and I think it must lie within the team somewhere.

    I guarantee that, with this squad, whoever comes in will either be crap from outset (like Adams and Smith) or will be magic for a while and then go the same way (like Waddock and Gaz).

    I'm judging from afar so it's just gut feel but I believe Waddock, and now Gaz, after a while of inspirational leadership, lost the dressing room. You can't get any more passionate than Gaz and it is sad to see him going down like this. Until the root cause of the lost dressing rooms is identified and stamped out, by setting an example, this will continue whoever is in charge. It will need some tough decisions, that may initially be unpopular, but the old adage "No player is bigger than the team" must be applied religiously at all times. This is why Ferguson was one of the, if not the, longest serving and successful managers of all time.
     
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  8. Finchyblue

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    It is nothing to do with losing the dressing room. The team are giving a lot of effort, but the starting eleven he keeps putting out are not good enough. He plays 3 players in Bloomfield, Lewis and Scowen who are exactly the same, they run, put in bags of effort but cannot pass. The two players in our squad that can create are Kretzschmar and Spring. The latter was poor last season but does have the ability to keep the ball. However he is not even included in the matchday squad with 4 strikers preferred on the bench!

    We literally only had one or two shots yesterday, which is not the fault of the strikers. Rarely was the quality good enough from midfield to allow the strikers to get in behind the defence.

    I hold my hands up I wanted to Gaz to get the job last season but to continue with him in charge is just accepting we will go down. Unfortunately he has littered the squad with players who just run around a lot (rather like him) and who are short in quality.
     
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    Sounds desperate to me.i thought gaz would do a good job but clearly something is drastictly going wrong somewhere.maybe the players are not good enough.
     
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  10. Ron

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    Hi Rocky. Good to see you back.
     
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    Fair enough Finchy, but it doesn't explain why we were doing so well end of last season and beginning of this.
     
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  12. Guywanderer

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    Another week at least for Gaz with todays game being off
     
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  13. mowgli1960

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    Depends when the new owners take over Guy surely? <party>
     
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    This time next Saturday we will have gone 3 weeks undefeated.
     
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  15. Blue_Slasher

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    Ainsworth seems to rely totally on endeavour. However, even in the lowly depths of league 2 it is proving not to be enough. To get by in this league you either need a touch of quality or a physically strong & tall team to over power the opposition and we have neither. Not sure if the squad over performed at the end of last season / beginning of this. Or are we just at our true level based on our player and wages budget now?
     
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  16. josewwfc

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    I think we did, but we are also underperforming now. we are essentially without 4 of our most crucial players last season : joel grant, dave Winfield, Charles dunne and dean morgan, the latter 2 we have lost to long term/lots of injuries.

    this side is good enough to stay up, but there is no doubting that there is an imbalance within the squad of grafters (lewis, scowen, craig etc) and those who are very creative (PCH and morgan, spring wood kretch and blooms aren't bad either).

    the other trouble is strikers. we have a creative one (deano), 2 impact sub style strikers (JPP and Jeffery), 2 strikers who I think would be best playing alongside a main stiker (craig and styche), a strong finisher whose injury prone (McClure) and a guy who you wonder how he ever got into pro football (sure I don't have to name him! <laugh> ). what we lack is the true goalscorer we've actually been quite blessed with in recent years, when you consider beavon, trotta, hayes, akinde, mcgliesh, easter, mooney, Tyson etc.

    gaz is in too deep now to make widespread changes, this side either needs to pull it together and fast, maybe with a loan or two, or the change needs to be made
     
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