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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i've made that point elsewhere on this site. squandering is a good word but that is not ayres fault either.

    we've now got the squad. we've 20mil per window and are still trying to get 3 player in for 20mil to improve
     
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  2. I agree about buying a couple of quality players rather than four or five decent players, I think most of here do too. However, we certainly don't have the squad IMO.
     
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  3. BCR

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    Either way you slice we should not have been going after salah, kono, or ince. The fact we waited last minute for Keita who is 34 is a farce too. Whoever the committee or whatever is should have recognized an M'vila, Banega, Matuidi, etc as the key players to go after.

    Our attack is thin with players on loan but thought that that would not be the priority in January!
     
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  4. Spot on <applause>
     
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  5. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    We went from M'vila, Montoya, positions we needed to last minute deadline day for a winger. Granted WBA showed how little in attack we can bring on but that is partly the committees fault too with Aspas and Alberto! Alberto I have time for but Aspas is looking like we should have just kept Borini and used that money elsewhere.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    really, really?

    if moses and aspas were not chosen and borini before that plus loans (ie flop) then is it thin or shot in foot by oneself.

    rodgers can't put this idea out there that we are thin as he's part of the problem then. blame himself
     
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  7. But even if you can't Moses and Aspas, we're still thin on options!


    Front three positions: Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Moses and Aspas. Some teams have four options despite only playing with one up front!
     
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  8. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, wasn't clear. thin on QUALITY options. <ok>
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    again two of those are self inflicted.

    but....

    chelsea have unlimited funds, e'tto torres, lukaku and many many fine second line players like hazard

    City have unlimeted funds, joketic, negredo, dzeko, ageuero, sila, navas etc

    EVERTON have no money, have two loan forwards, mccarthy (ishh) mcgeady mirallas

    Spurs spend the lot, loads of whingers.. sorry wingers and just two forwards. soldado and adebayor

    LFC are not thin nor badly off anything that we have is self inflicted or self praising for job well done... SAS and coutinho are fabulous. Moses is a result of failing to compete for 3 separate big money buys but is a choice and frankly aspas is a major choice too.

    plenty of players.. we are not thin, we are where we are due to our own choices (i.e rodger's choices)
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    please someone point out 4th so far ain a bad return on those choices should it come to pass.
     
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  11. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    £7 mill for llori who hasnt even had a sniff is a weird way to have spent money we had,aspas is another waste, add allen £15 mill starts adding up.
     
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  12. Livtor

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    Loaning in players should be beneath Liverpool to begin with. I can give a laundry list reasons why loaning in players does not serve a team with ambition.

    I don't agree with loaning out either IF the squad is getting mediocre reinforcements to replace them. It's a bit stupid that we get Illori and loan out Wisdom, get Aspas and loan out Borini, get Alberto and loan out Suso.

    If we have enough room and intensity in our practice session to accomodate players with some top-flight experience like Borini, Suso, Assaidi, Wisdom, we should do it and grow them from inside. Chelsea and others they loan out their fledglings, players who wouldn't get a look in due to proven ones ahead of them, or for business purposes.

    We often do it for unclear reasons.
     
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    BCR Well-Known Member

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    I really do hope they work out but you look at 7 mil illori, 7 mil alberto, around 7 mil Aspas ( somewhere in there for those guys) and you are looking at 21 mil to get a top player who would actually contribute now. Just wish Alberto would get more of a look or go on loan, feels to be stagnating him atm.
     
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  14. We've (general board sense) had this discussion before. Ilori, Aspas and Alberto is about £20m worth of buys, we could have spent that on one quality player but then that leaves us with even less numbers. Of course, the three named players have hardly featured anyway so would it be a big loss?
     
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    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Add to that with the 20 mil and those positions we bought in, would we have loaned out all of Wisdom, Borini, Suso, Assaidi, etc? Probably not so would have had the same depth.
     
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  16. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    we have blatantly tried to buy for the future, but sadly we need and should have worried more about the now, and it would have taken care of itself eventually or we could have been in a better position any way.

    missed opportunity sadly, do hope we have enough to get top4 with what we have.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    agreed, though... aspas yet valencia want him?? i dunno
     
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  18. BCR

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    I'll throw in for our Transfer committee..... how much future do we need to buy?

    Assaidi is what 24?
    Borini 21-22
    Suso 19-20
    Sterling 18-19
    Alberto 18-19
    Illori 19-21 somewhere in there
    Wisdom 18-20
    Ibe 18-19
    Moses 23 right?
    Allen 22-23
    Hendo 22-24
    Flanno 22-24
    Coates 22-24

    How many more future buys do we need? How many "Senior" players do we have? I would say 25 and up?
     
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  19. Livtor

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    I see LFC's future in that pool, in addition to two whole false futures <magic>. It's a lot and mind you and there's another half a dozen worth mentioning in that bracket from the reserves.
     
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  20. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Thank jeebies we didn't sign Moses and Cissoko permanent. If there is a risk and we have an agreed sign on fee it helps limit the risk we will sign a lemon.

    We are not wasting more money on moses and Cissy than we are.
     
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