I don't really understand that Omega Man , you won't protest now to stop the name change but you will protest if the name does change ?
I had reasons at the start of all of this not to join the protest and that reason was all to do with supporter share ownership. As that is not a viable option now so my not buying a season pass is a form of protest. But how is that stacked against not supporting Hull Tigers but still going to games next season?
This is admirable. Well done. This isn't quite so admirable. Why do you feel the need to criticise the way other people are trying to make their protest? It's not easy to give up the team they've followed all their lives. I will probably still go, but I'll sing CTID at 19.04 and join in with any other form of protest on offer. Don't you think it's possible to be vehemently opposed to the name change yet still want to go to games? This is why I asked if you were autistic, because the inability to make anything other than stark black and white decisions, rather than see the grey areas between, is often a feature of the condition.
how do you imagine the atmoshphere will be like, last game of the season at home to everton (assuming we've stayed up) as the last game as hull city afc? (should the name change be accepted in march/april?
To be honest, I don't really want to think about it, but I imagine it could be quite fraught. There will be the positivity around us having stayed up, but lots of anger at the name change. Not just the name change, but the fact that many will see what should have been a successful and joyous season, along with the opportunity to celebrate this on the last day, as being tarnished by the way AA has divided the fanbase unlike anyone before.
well for me, should that situation occur... it could be my last game for ahwile.. i'm in e1 so i'd imagine the place around me would be angry.. since im 22, my price increases by a couple hundred quid for next season anyway ( i will be getting a pass if the name change doesn't occur ) but should it.. i'd find it incredibly emotional.. i wouldn't know how to act i've only ever cried at one city match and that was in the last 5 mins of wembley.. i just literally burst into tears, i couldn't cope with the situation it's the only time in my life i've cried out of nowhere, i couldn't even feel it coming on, it was like a tsunami
Yeah, it'll be an emotional one alright. I don't think I'll be blubbing though; you get a bit of perspective on these things when you've watched both parents eaten alive by cancer.
well i don't know how to respond to that, i was 16 at wembley ( i think) and i've had my fair share of **** things happening... erm
Hehe... it wasn't intended to come out sounding as morbid as that! I guess I'm just saying that I can't get upset to the point of tears over football, even in the face of something as major as the name change (though I have to admit, Wembley 2008 gave me a feeling unlike anything I've ever experienced before; even just watching Deano's goal again on Youtube - something that I still do on a regular basis - never fails to send an absolute shiver down my spine. The 104 Year Roar as the ball hits the net is far and away the most important sporting moment I have ever witnessed).
We have spoken about this and I have always said that fan-ownership is a total non-starter under the ownership of Allam. In wider terms it is an interesting discussion point, but of no relevance whatsoever to the name-change debate. It is not the name-change that we should be fighting, it is Assem Allam. The name-change is nothing more than a part of his strategy, he will have more; he has made it crystal clear that he cares not one single iota for the heritage and supporters (customers, as we really must be business-minded ), so we should not care for him. It's way beyond time that the campaign, or a campaign, got to grips with the true nature of the owner, his style and his brief history with OUR club. No one has to do anything other than speak the truth and then keep repeating it (lots of thick ****ers out there) so that the gentlemen of the press (some of them thick ****ers) can finally realise that it's not a name-change argument, it's just another sad money-grubbing arsehole using the heritage of our club to shaft us all. But **** it, let's argue about statistics and numbers, what he-said, she-said bollocks; time will tell, we need to see what the don't-give-a-****s are thinking before we can do anything. Really??? I sincerely hope I'm never in a tight corner with some of the fence-sitters on here.
i agree, i doubt i'd cry should all those situations occur, i'd just get a feeling of... why did it come to this? i'd def try and join in as much abuse to allam as possible, becasue with finances it probably would be last game... i'd feel gutted and despite me being only 22, i have so many good memories.. wembley for me will never ever be eclipsed, it's why i can't see how anyone can critcize brown.. the second season? so ****ing what... the manager doesn't control finances.. we ****ing barely got a win.. but wembley... i'll remember that till the day i die, i honestly hate allam.. like i said im only 22, so never experienced the earlier years, and i'm not technically from hull.. but the first game i went.. i fell in love, and the name change will just i can't express how i feel about it in text...
But didn't Nick Thompson resign for family reasons?? I would say it was more likely that he was disgusted with the way the Allam family hung him out to dry in the eyes of the fans. I would also say that is the reason the post has not been filled yet, they can't get a replacement target to take the heat off them.
Oh I just made it all up, you know, Im posting this stuff out of jealousy, nothing I post adds up to anything. It's not as if the club looks at the results of the polls or anything does it. I mean when someone posts stuff on here its right isn't it. Membership polls are important, a vital number is the number who could vote, leave it out and you have to qualify your poll by stating that the percentages are of votes cast. Generally there is a statement something like...of the votes cast the majority..... On the HCSS site they include the number of members who could have voted, I agree with that. I say it's misleading not to include those figures. On here Im told that I am wrong, but if so why did the HCSS include them? So to avoid any doubt the HCSS get it right in my opinion. Posters who quote their poll without the membership numbers are misleading.
I really don't think that's the case. You often get things like "92% of British people think that..." when clearly the whole country haven't given their view but they are represented by a big enough sample size to make it a reasonable claim to make. It's how research works.
Sorting for Negative again, Omega. Definitely some psychological/emotional issues at play here. Were you praised much as a child?
Well CTWD offered to ballot all hull city season ticket holders. You can't say fairer than that. You can't make everyone reply but you can't presume either way which way someone would vote. With the HCSS 56-62% replied to the email depending on the minors vote. That is enough for it to be conclusive.
You know it's a real shame CTWD and the other Anti's are so hung up on polls. We're not voting for a President. If you'd focussed your efforts in a slightly more practical direction, you'd be just wondering who will own the club, because you'd easily win an FA vote. As an example, those post cards, rather than annoying the FA with a load of unwanted crap to get rid of, get A5 cards printed off, handed out, get fans to hold them up at 19:04 ala Coventry. Instead you sing songs we sing anyhow, apart from the one denigrating Dr Allam, you piss the FA off with a load of extra recycling and you complain a lot about a vote you know you won't get and wouldnt matter if you did.
