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Will the greedy owners now see the light?

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Christiansmith, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Actually it's not, you took money from AIG in the past, a criminal enterprise. So you are telling me taking money from organised crime is not as bad as taking money from a sugar daddy.

    Nope, false standards mate. False standards indeed. When you were paying cash like that for Rio and veron no one could compete with that but it was fine yeah.
     
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  2. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    From money it made, not a sugar daddy.

    I dont think Sharpe electonics are criminal enterprise
     
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  3. Orangputeh

    Orangputeh Member

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    To Sisu (since your private message box is already full!!).

    Re: your signature quotation and the comment ' Hiterlish' (which one assumes is meant to be 'Hitlerish'?)

    P.M.Begin never made that quotation!! You are disseminating anti-Semitic propaganda designed to create religious hatred, thereby committing a hate crime.

    Read this: -
    First of all, Mr. Begin never said those words and there is no factual basis for that quote. When we searched for the quote, we found that it looped back to the same text by Texe Marrs, who does not say that he is quoting Begin.

    Further research at this site showed that the quote was attributed to "Amnon Kapeliouk's article "Begin and the Beasts" (New Statesman, June 25, 1982) which was infamous for having misrepresented some remarks Menachem Begin said in a speech to the Knesset, and there are legitimate sources all over the net that make reference to that incident.

    However, the misrepresented quote is not the one cited ("Our race is the Master Race", etc.), but another one entirely (see below). Clearly, someone invented the "Master Race" quote and then tacked on Amnon Kapeliouk as the source, to give it credibility. However, even the REAL (and far less offensive) quote has now been proven to have been misrepresented by Kapeliouk.

    The REAL story involving Kapeliouk's article is provided by a media-watch group called CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), which regularly debunks bogus news reports and misquotes.

    Here:

    ...Internet hate sites, as well as Fisk, attribute the derogation of Palestinians as "two-legged beasts" to former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin. The source generally given is:

    Menachem Begin, as quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts, "New Statesman, June 25, 1982

    Indeed, the radical French-Israeli journalist, Amnon Kapeliouk, did attribute such a quote to Begin in his New Statesman article criticizing Israel's invasion of Lebanon. The author posited:

    For this reason the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to dehumanize the Palestinians. Begin described them in a speech in the Knesset as "beasts walking on two legs

    However, further investigation by CAMERA reveals that the actual speech upon which Kapeliouk based his quote, as well as news reports at the time demonstrate that the journalist distorted the quote, giving it a completely different tone and meaning. Begin was referring not to "the Palestinians" in a general sense but very specifically, he was referring to terrorists who target children within Israel...Kapeliouk neither recanted nor apologized for his deception...
     
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  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    is Israel a state or a religion?

    Only asking because if Sisu's sig is aimed at the aforementioned state's former leader its not anti Jewish?

    People slag numerous politicians about numerous issues all the time whether they're alive or dead eg: Thatcher and its not illegal is it?
     
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  5. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Once the Mata deal goes through - This will be Utd's biggest ever spend in one season.

    Well done Fellani.
     
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  6. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    pack it in

    please log in to view this image
     
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  7. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Tottenham <laugh> 350m for a league cup
     
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  8. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    How are the owners being greedy.

    They have just given mata a 110 percent pay rise
     
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  9. Orangputeh

    Orangputeh Member

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    Well, certainly it has nothing to do with football, so one has to wonder what Sisu's motive is in disseminating a lie. Either he has not bothered to check to find it a ridiculous lie, or he knows it to be untrue and wishes to promote anti-Semitism.
    I have pointed out to him that it is false statement, promulgated by some of the many enemies of either Jews or the State of Israel. If, as you imply, it is levelled against P.M.Begin himself, that would be simply illogical, since he died almost 12 years ago.

    I believe that Sisu's signature promotes hostility towards one religion and as such may be regarded as a hate-crime, which the owners of this website and Sisu should address before they are prosecuted.

    (I do hope Sisu reads this too!)
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't give a flying **** what you think, if someone disagrees with a nation's leader and policies its got **** all to do with religion, this is a Christian nation but I think Cameron and Clegg are ****s for their policies, does that in your view make me anti Christian?, for the record I hated Thatchers policies and she's now dead.
     
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  11. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

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    I think ( and I wish It were different) that the owners of United have only one objective. To make as much money as possible. They invested only a small fraction of the clubs worth to grab total ownership through massive loans mortgaged on the club itself. So money that should have been used for buying players goes into servicing banks and the f**king yanks pockets.

    The only way the team can be improved is if this coincides with the financial objective in the eyes of the greedy Gs. The fall in value of the club has got their attention. Suddenly they have to behave like every other owners I.e invest on expensive players to get a top team. No more Fergie to save them money <ok>
     
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